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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for U.S. President in 2024 !
Alexandria is a brilliant young woman full of energy and progressive ideas like the Green New Deal.
She’ll be 35 in 2024 – old enough to be POTUS.
I think she’d be one of the greatest Presidents in the history of this country, and I hope she runs ! -
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how someone who has been office for a month has done enough to convince you they will be one of the greatest presidents ever is interesting..
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@OP
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@OP
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Occasio-Cortez, Tlaib, Omar. This has winner written all over it.
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Hahahaha
Says the guy in bathroom with the lights out
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lmao.
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The race to the bottom, mirrored even at AM off pol
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No, Trump is the bottom.
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You guys say all sorts of stuff but never have any evidence of … anything
Trump is dominating right now. What makes me amused is that he’s easily gonna get 4 more years, much to your chagrin
And your delusion and tears will be enough for vindication. It’s going to be so
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I’m not a fan of trump by any means, but seeing what the democratic party has offered so far in terms of presidential hopefuls, I’m betting he will win re-election.
I don’t know why the dem’s simply can’t understand that a country that just elected TRUMP a few years ago is not ready for left of center, super progressive, semi-socialist, diverse female for the role. Just not going to happen. If Biden and Beto get on a ticket together they have a shot. Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren? The green new deal? Medicare for all? No way they will win.-
Sherrod Brown with either Harris or Klobuchar is a winning ticket
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Pretty much needs to be a woman on the ticket
The midterms showed the power of women vote
Be pretty shortsighted to not have a female on the ticket and would probably depress turnout
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she must be doing something right if she’s getting this much attention
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The grand old white guy party have wet dreams over her for some reasons
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She serves as a distraction from Ttump. Think of her as the new bogeywoman hobgoblin of the Right, Nancys replacement as the devil woman Liberal.
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Ohhhhhh the old creepy white guys are definitely knobhobbing her in their thoughts
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keep in mind the dullards at Fox news had already been talking about her running in 2020 which is not even possible. this was a few weeks back. She’s sort of like Trump in that she makes use of social media like Twitter but she’s not using in the childish manner we see from DJT.
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^ just in a brainless manner.
What is hysterical is that you don’t see how the media is hurting the Democrat party, this woman is a total buffoon, what she says is so out of touch with reality, it’s crazy. Literally can only win in a sliver of a district in somewhere like NY, CA, or Oregon. If you don’t see that, you deserve the absolute pounding you’re gonna get in the next election. I’ll take your money, easy. -
She isn’t in the next presidential election. She’s not as dumb as the GOP goofs would like to make her out to be.
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I see that the AuntMinnie moderators have no problems with kpack hurling racial slurs all over the place.
Moderators, if one were to use “black” in the way kpack uses “white”, would you be so laissez-faire? I doubt it. -
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She isn’t in the next presidential election. She’s not as dumb as the GOP goofs would like to make her out to be.
Probably not as dumb but she has a lot to learn and seems a bit unaware of her gaps in knowledge (should listen to Whoopi) -
So a white guy
Calling another white guy A white guy is racist???????
Easy up buttercup
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This is an anonymous forum. We don’t know who you are.
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Easy up buttercup
A middle age white guy calling another white guy….. an old white guy is not racist
Why so sensitive?
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And honestly
This forum is not really anonymous
Its easy to figure out who everyone is
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Well then, who are you?
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Im a white boy like you
Why does that make you so mad
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She isn’t in the next presidential election. She’s not as dumb as the GOP goofs would like to make her out to be.
Probably not as dumb but she has a lot to learn and seems a bit unaware of her gaps in knowledge (should listen to Whoopi)
Yesterday she was cheering the fact that her constituents lost access to thousands of well paying jobs and the opportunity to profit from increasing property values in Queens. Dumber than a box of rocks. -
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She isn’t in the next presidential election. She’s not as dumb as the GOP goofs would like to make her out to be.
Probably not as dumb but she has a lot to learn and seems a bit unaware of her gaps in knowledge (should listen to Whoopi)
Yesterday she was cheering the fact that her constituents lost access to thousands of well paying jobs and the opportunity to profit from increasing property values in Queens. Dumber than a box of rocks.
Wasn’t this something that Cuomo and de Blasio fought hard for?
Also I believe I heard a comment where she thought that the $3B they “saved” (referring to tax incentives used to draw in Amazon) could now be spent on infrastructure -
No. Only about $500M, the rest was not a pot of $.
There were a number of reasons New Yorkers questioned the deal. Amazon apparently also resented the challenge & is taking their football home because many New Yorkers did not see Amazon as the white hat riding in on a white horse. Da noive of New York! -
I don’t disagree with her on Amazon. It’s essentially corporate welfare and having an Amazon is not necessarily great for a city is my understanding based on what I’ve heard from Seattle. Even at that I’m sure cities are still drooling to get that HQ. (***Amazon is paying NO Federal tax***)
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Ocasio-Cortez made good points about Amazon. I will give her that. But give her a few years and she’ll be bought and paid for like everyone else in Congress.
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I don’t disagree with her on Amazon. It’s essentially corporate welfare and having an Amazon is not necessarily great for a city is my understanding based on what I’ve heard from Seattle. Even at that I’m sure cities are still drooling to get that HQ. (***Amazon is paying NO Federal tax***)
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Because it brings thousands of jobs and supports the local economy
The restaurants hotels and small businesses all benefit from 15-20,000 new jobs
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I think so many of you republicans are just convinced by the FOX news propaganda that all democrats are socialists and anti business
Hate to tell you this but most of the billionaires and successful businessmen in this country are liberal and believe in capitalism
Its weird how they are portrayed
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Yes, kpack, we know that Democrats are the party for the rich.
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Whatever you want to believe
Buffet gates Bezos etc
These guys and dozens of others are all liberal and pro capitalism
Not really sure why you are fooling yourself into believing propaganda
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Again, define your terms. Of course Buffet and Bezos, Gates are capitalists. But if you look closer, they are monopolists and invest in such things too. I don’t think you consider pro-monopoly “capitalists” “liberal” in any stretch. But you believe their public statements, which are propaganda, if you define terms (something hard for you lefties, you aren’t liberals at all).
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Maybe you should define your terms for a change. And considering your support of Trump, your arguments are pure troll trash.
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I think the rich left needs to provide restitution to all the minorities they’ve step on or used to become so successful. No doubt history will show, old money from the left came from slavery as well. Keeping the same mantra they so love to push on the right for being successful. Don’t do as I do… but do as I say attitude. Socialism and Communism never works as we all have seen throughout the world. As I’ve stated so many times on this blog. Humans have pecking order, it’s in our nature, it’s in our society. You will not be able to change it via laws. You can’t out tax it. The poorest and richest countries all have a pecking order of status based on wealth not by knowledge or academia. However, hindering someone to succeed is the greatest crime of all. Projecting a diatribe that all wealthy corporations are evil and are not for the people is a solid justification that our over priced colleges are ripping us off in regards to economics. AOC would not have gotten her degree (in economics? Ha ha ha ha ha) if it were not for Capitalism and Job creation. AOC and her freshman gang should show us HOW we should live by donating her 90% back to the government or social programs, Why? because in other peoples eyes, she’s extremely very wealthy! I love this year as I can’t wait to sit back and see the Left eat their young. G-Ma Pelosi, chewing her cud while looking at papers, Schumer looking down upon everyone with those reading glasses and pushing a tear out.
Bottom line, 20 to 25,000 new jobs that just left. 25,000 added extra payroll tax participants in the area of Queens (possibly). New stores, sales taxes, new secondary employment in the area. But now… Gone due to people who make decisions on “Feelings” rather than logic. Pure stupidity at it’s best. AOC… YOU GO GIRL! -
ya sort of a weird angle attacking her personality and etc. I guess credit score matters if youre hundreds of thousands in debt like that one governor candidate in georgia but otherwise not relevant.
Just attack the views and policies. this is the problem with digital age. we already have people going back 30 years for like sorority/fraternity stupid pranks and etc, can you imagine how much easier facebook, twitter and etc will make the whole process? even if stuff is deleted there is still probably ways to find it. politics is a sh*tshow now, it will get even worse when we’re pulling up tweets that candidates made when they were like 12 and they’re expected to address it.
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your mayor of NY doesnt seem happy she is celebrating amazon not coming to NYC. not sure how that would hurt NYC but whatever.
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Sure but think back to your year book. Is there a picture of you in blackface? I didnt do that. I feel like that was a bad idea in 1998 or 1968.
One of the interesting things about Twitter and specifically DJT on Twitter is that theres almost always an old tweet from him contradicting himself. It doesnt matter the subject. Like he complained Obama golfed too much.
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Back to the amazon issue
Has minimal to do with AOC
Bezos told NYC to go F themselves because some in the old guard were trying to extort him
In his eyes
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Aoc is the one who said it was bad for NYC.
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And that affects amazons decision how?
Is that the Fox News answer?
Or its that why Amazon said no?
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And that affects amazons decision how?
Is that the Fox News answer?
Or its that why Amazon said no?
Not sure if this in the Fox news answer and not sure if “politicians” includes AOC but this is the governor of NY’s explanation:
Amazon chose to come to New York because we are the capital of the world and the best place to do business, said Governor Cuomo in a statement after Amazons announcement on Thursday. However, a small group [of] politicians put their own narrow political interests above their community. -
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Not sure if this in the Fox news answer and not sure if “politicians” includes AOC but this is the governor of NY’s explanation:
Amazon chose to come to New York because we are the capital of the world and the best place to do business, said Governor Cuomo in a statement after Amazons announcement on Thursday. However, a small group [of] politicians put their own narrow political interests above their community.
While she had her big mouth open and contributed her uninformed comments, I believe the governor was more talking about state level politicians like the corrupt senator Michael Gianaris (D). This cat who ‘represents’ a part of queens got himself nominated to the Public Authorities Control Board. In the planned socialist economy of New York State, everything is controlled by ‘authorities’. They are a unaccountable intermediate layer of government that have their fingers in everything from hospital construction to the paving of roads. They are controlled by boards with appointees from various levels of government and intersecting jurisdictions. Those appointees then vote themselves high salaries for what is essentially a no-show job and take bribes left and right to steer the contracts to their cronies. For the Amazon project, this would mean that getting some bulkhead in the harbor moved or a sewer line re-routed requires the blessing from various ‘authorities’. With the corrupt Gianaris at the controls, their project was at risk of getting sidelined by the buerocracy. Neither Cuomo nor blowhorn DeBlasio would be able to exert control over the authority corruption.
The other problem of course are NYC unions and the collusion between unions and the city permits department. In a commercial property in NYC, you can’t pound a nail into the wall without a building permit in triplicate and without a city licensed and unionized hammerswinger doing the work. You also can’t bring your own hammerswinger, you have to go down to the union hall of ‘hammerswingers international local 6611’ and hire the guy who is #1 on the seniority list at whatever price he sees fit. He may show up when you told him to, and he may not. If he does, you also have to pay for his ‘helper’ who does absolutely nothing while he is at your site, except maybe spit tobacco juice into your carpet. If he doesn’t show up and you withold his pay, his buddy at the permit office will issue a stop-work order on your entire project.Given the trouble Amazon is having with the radicals in Seattle, I was rather mystified why they decided to deal with the morass that is NYC for their HQ2. They are already a player in the city, I have family who works for them. Amazon brass should have known how impossible it is to get anything done in NYC.
I expect them to do well in NoVa. I doubt their Arlington campus will grow to quite the size they are planning right now, but with the metro connectivity in the DC region, they can easily put satellites closer to their datacenter operations out in Loudoun and Prince William counties. -
There were a lot of layers of people to pay in New York
Bezos just flipped them off and left
When you have the cards you are able to do that and he did
It was just business
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All this hand-wringing & pearl-clutching about unions is a beside the point non sequitur. It is non-factual. The unions had already made an agreement about building the headquarters.
I think one has to question Amazon’s decision based more on their failure to move that they felt they would take their football home. Perhaps it was as much Amazon’s own hubris as much as anything else. Perhaps they think they are above criticism.
I think their “beauty contest” shows their thin skin & affront that some NYC locals weren’t more deferential. I mean they fully claim that 70% of New Yorkers seemed to favor the deal yet they pull out?
I think this was an Amazon decision based solely on that they wanted more & wanted no questions asked. How dare they be questioned & challenged. I mean this is one of the 3 largest corporations in the world & they wither against some local criticism?
[link=https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-metro-amazon-cancels-new-york-20190214-story.html]https://www.nydailynews.c…rk-20190214-story.html[/link]
Amazon pulled out of the project even as it was making progress in talks with major opponents.
Leaders of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union, Teamsters and AFL-CIO met with four top Amazon executives and Cuomo Wednesday, said RWDSU President Stuart Appelbaum. The meeting was productive, Appelbaum said, and resulted in a framework for moving forward that did not require any unionization.
The project which would have brought 25,000 jobs to a campus in Queens, state and city officials said also had support from the Building and Construction Trades and SEIU Local 32BJ, whose members would have been involved in building and operating Amazons new facilities.While Cuomo blamed the Senate which was set to appoint an Amazon opponent, Sen. Michael Gianaris, to a key state panel with sway over the project de Blasio lashed out at the company for its lack of backbone and petulance.
So what I dont get is: We made an agreement with them. They chose New York City. We were keeping the agreement. Guess what? Some community activists wanted to see something else, they wanted changes or they had differences, thats part of life. And instead of an actual dialogue to try and resolve those issues, we get a call this morning saying were taking our ball and were going home. Ive never seen anything like it. So we are putting them in our past and we are moving forward. the mayor said.
In a statement, the online retail giant blamed the Valentines Day breakup on the frosty reception it had received from local pols.
After much thought and deliberation, weve decided not to move forward with our plans to build a headquarters for Amazon in Long Island City, Queens, the statement said. While polls show that 70% of New Yorkers support our plans and investment, a number of state and local politicians have made it clear that they oppose our presence and will not work with us to build the type of relationships that are required to go forward with the project we and many others envisioned in Long Island City.In a statement, the online retail giant blamed the Valentines Day breakup on the frosty reception it had received from local pols.But union officials said theyd made progress in the 24 hours before the deal imploded. Union leaders meeting with Amazon executives on Wednesday was productive, Appelbaum said, and resulted in a framework for moving forward that did not require any unionization.
We were talking about fairness and how you deal with issues and make sure that there was no retaliation against the workers that supported unionization, and that there’d be no hostility on any campaign on either side, Appelbaum said.But about 24 hours later, the deal was dead.
Maybe Amazon was deliberately tone-deaf.
Still, the company did not hire a single New Yorker as an employee to represent it in discussions with local groups. Its main representatives traveled between Washington and Manhattan, and only one had moved into an apartment to work with community members and foster support.
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Sounds like a total cluster on multiple layers. One would think that a company like Amazon would have done a more thorough job of fully vetting the area/environment prior to making a commitment.
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Sounds like a total cluster on multiple layers. One would think that a company like Amazon would have done a more thorough job of fully vetting the area/environment prior to making a commitment.
That’s a big part of it. Amazon did the deal without public input or comment. They didn’t do the ground work to get buy-in from all the stakeholders…. so when a vocal minority opposition popped up they were taken aback.
I think some of the opposition wanted them to pull out. But a lot of folks just wanted them to come to the table and re-negotiate.
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Who is the loser here Amazon or NYC? Both are winners. Amazon
will find a new HQs that is supportive and welcoming. NYC wins by
rejecting capitalism and embracing the socialistic desires of their radical
leftist mayor, governor and rock star congress hottie (except for the hyperthyroid eyes and toothy mouth). My governor and mayor. Mr. Cuomo has come to understand all too well the problem with the progressive tax system of NY. As he said recently the problem with our progressive tax system is that the wealthy are the most capable of easily moving out of NYC and leaving behind a giant budget deficit. Yes, I am limited in writing off my NY tax burden to the federal government. The NYC liberal elite have their panties in a wad because its now time to pay the piper for electing democratic socialists who have progressively raised their taxes which they thought they would never have to actually pay. Wealthy NY and NJ residents loved the idea of high taxes as long as it could be written off. The middle class of NY and NJ have come to realize that they are now lucky enough to be wealthy and must now pay up. Isn’t great to be wealthy? I thought we wanted the wealthy to pay their fair share in taxes. I could easily become a resident of Florida this year. My parents did several years ago. My dad owns alot of property in FL. I could probably get a sweetheart deal on a great condo in Miami Beach. And dear Dad could take a loss. The socialists on this site love to claim that the blue states are more educated and support the deplorables. NYC will struggle to fund their socialist agenda. Nancy Pelosi is a genius who has humiliated Trump but yet her district has become a wasteland of hypodermic needles and human feces. Thank god we got rid of Amazon. -
Stfu
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Does daddy and mommy still wipe your arse?
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Who doesn’t want gentrification, construction, higher rents, more crowding, and overloaded transportation?
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Stfu
Show me on this doll where the truth hurt you.
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Don’t worry kpuck, we won’t be neighbors. I
have no interest in the sh!thole part of FL you reside
in. Figures the redneck from western PA ends up in
the redneck part of FL. I guess I touched a nerve.
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Maybe your daddy and mommy will buy you a house
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Sounds like a total cluster on multiple layers. One would think that a company like Amazon would have done a more thorough job of fully vetting the area/environment prior to making a commitment.
That’s a big part of it. Amazon did the deal without public input or comment. They didn’t do the ground work to get buy-in from all the stakeholders…. so when a vocal minority opposition popped up they were taken aback.
I think some of the opposition wanted them to pull out. But a lot of folks just wanted them to come to the table and re-negotiate.
it’s a business deal. do you want them to go do polls around the neighborhood? majority of NYers supported it but because a small minority opposed, amazon didn’t have the public’s approval?
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The neighborhood didn’t want Amazon and considering Amazon’s behavior has basically proven itself to be a bad partner.
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it’s a business deal. do you want them to go do polls around the neighborhood? majority of NYers supported it but because a small minority opposed, amazon didn’t have the public’s approval?
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Brian Lehrer had Rutger Bregman on his show today. Very good but brief discussion. Hes the guy at Davos who told the elites they were hypocrites. Which got him as a guest on Tucker Carlson, the Faux populist who thought he would use Bregman until Bregman told Carlson he was also an elitist who is rich being Murdochs mouthpiece.
[link=https://www.wnyc.org/story/taking-down-elites-davos-and-fox-news]https://www.wnyc.org/stor…tes-davos-and-fox-news[/link]
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I saw that
The guy almost made tucker cry
Carlson would not let the interview on the air
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Tucker is a prostituted arse. & his past radio recordings w the Love Sponge guy prove that. Even Love Sponge & his co host thought Tucker was a vaginal lavage.
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Box of rocks.
No, Wells Fargo is not operating a pipeline.
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She didn’t claim it is. She challenged the Wells Fargo CEO for [i]providing the financing[/i] for the companies that run pipelines (and cage children at the US border)
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Exactly which caging of children was she asking about? Those caged under Obama or Trump? Happened under both admins. My dad’s company has a few private jets that were financed by well known bank. Who is responsible for contribution to climate change? Aoc is one sharp tool…..
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My daddys company
Would you just stop
You fng tool
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Both JP Morgan and Wells Fargo are cutting ties with private prison companies, including those involved in border detention.
Since they were OK with the Obama policy but this change is happening secondary to Trump administration policy I am going to go out on a limb and say that they find the Trump administration to be more potentially harmful to their corporate reputations. (Or maybe it just took this long for the political pressure to build and force them to act)
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And the issue with Wells Fargo’s involvement with funding pipeline projects has been ongoing for a number of years.
There have been numerous protests. Davis, CA and Seattle, WA both cut ties with Wells over their funding of the Dakota Access pipeline.
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Ocasio -Cortez: “Should Wells Fargo be held responsible for the damages incurred by climate change due to the financing of fossil fuels and these projects?”
Now you can disagree with the sentiment of her politics on this, but it is clear that she doesn’t think that Wells is the pipeline operator.
Ocasio Cortez is merely giving a national voice to a multi-year ongoing political pressure campaign on the big banks to change their behavior and force them to be more socially and environmentally conscious in their lending practices.
Wells has responded: [link=https://www.wellsfargo.com/about/corporate-responsibility/responsible-energy-financing/]https://www.wellsfargo.co…ible-energy-financing/[/link]
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She didn’t claim it is. She challenged the Wells Fargo CEO for [i]providing the financing[/i] for the companies that run pipelines (and cage children at the US border)
You got to listen to the exchange on c-span. She is a ditz, gets lost on her script, has obviously no idea how all the things she is rambling on about are tied together ‘wildfires and such’…. Whenever one of the bizarre claims she made were disputed, rather than backing them up with facts, she talks over the witness and moves on to ‘hypothetically if there was a leak….’. Well hypothetically we could all get hit by a meteor.
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You support Trump but call Ocasio-Cortez a ditz unworthy of your support?
Your priorities & obversations are fd up.
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Fox News and the left has turned this freshmen congress women into a poster gurl for old white guys in the shower
They want to paint her as the new whacky left…… but they also want to whack off to her
They have this love hate thing with her that they obsess about and its really creepy
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Fox News and the left has turned this freshmen congress women into a poster gurl for old white guys in the shower
They want to paint her as the new whacky left…… but they also want to whack off to her
They have this love hate thing with her that they obsess about and its really creepy
You are the one who keeps bringing up your sexual fantasies about her. Really, nobody cares. She is young, that’s the only thing she has going for her in the looks department.
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Bull sheet
The grand old white guy party and people like your havevthis weird fetish to talk about this relative no name with no accomplishments constantly
Its weird and its creepy and you and your types are the ones bringing it up constantly
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Bull sheet
The grand old white guy party and people like your havevthis weird fetish to talk about this relative no name with no accomplishments constantly
Its weird and its creepy and you and your types are the ones bringing it up constantly
You really need to stop day drinking. I know, it’s saturday but you shouldn’t hit the sauce that early in the day.
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You need to stop spanking
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This girl has no accomplishments other than in your bathroom mind
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Looks like Democrats joining Republicans that “Deficits don’t matter with their MMT economics.
[link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/can-the-u-s-afford-democrats-bold-promises-why-one-economist-says-yes-11553961600]https://www.wsj.com/artic…t-says-yes-11553961600[/link]
As Democrats on Capitol Hill and the campaign trail present an array of ambitious and expensive policy proposals, from a [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-democrats-evade-gop-attempt-to-expose-rifts-over-green-new-deal-11553637614?mod=article_inline]Green New Deal[/link] to [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/medicare-for-all-loses-momentum-among-democrats-11551441601?mod=article_inline]Medicare for All[/link], the question they face most often is, How will the government pay for it?
The answer, increasingly, comes from a professor at Stony Brook University on Long Island, [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB11557573648609953303304585210720973203334?mod=article_inline]Stephanie Kelton,[/link] who…argues the government doesnt need to worry so much about how much it borrows to pay for spending programs.
With inflation and interest rates now very low, the government has plenty of room to borrow and spend more, MMT advocates say.
The rise of MMT comes as mainstream economists are [link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/worry-about-debt-not-so-fast-some-economists-say-11550414860?mod=article_inline]reconsidering the danger of deficits[/link]. Former International Monetary Fund chief economist Olivier Blanchard, former Council of Economic Advisers chairman Jason Furman and Harvard University economics professor Kenneth Rogoff have all said recently the U.S. appears to have more room to borrow than they once thought.
[b]Republicans, too, have backed away from past opposition to large deficits. With Republicans in control of the White House and Congress in 2017 and 2018, deficits marched toward $1 trillion, in part because of tax cuts and increased military spending.[/b]
[b]The deficit totaled 4.5% of economic output last year, compared with an average of 2.9% over the previous 50 years. Debt-to-GDP has more than doubled, from 35% at the end of 2007 to 78% by the end of 2018, and is on track to hit 93% by 2029.[/b]
MMT has been standing with its feet in the same spot for decades, Ms. Kelton said. The mainstream economists keep inching, inching, a little bit closer. Its something weve been watching for a very long time.
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The best part about all these crazy threads is that they prove they are deluded, losers, who are going to lose again and again, yet they complain more and make more up that are even worse lies.
[size=”4″][b]4 more years.[/b][/size] So sorry boys. And I’m lovin’ it. You deserve it. Trump is gonna suplex your collective arses again.
Obviously you aren’t repentant or honest, otherwise this might be an interesting board to discuss things on.
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Chuck Schumer better keep his head on a swivel.
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There is no doubt that AOC will go for Schumer and then the Presidency.
There’s no doubt in my mind though that a coalition of Republicans and traditional Dems will keep her out of the White House forever, probably not even Schumer’s seat.
The Extreme Left (AOC, et. al) scare me because they are loud and forceful but they still only make up 20% of the US and about 40-45% of the Dems.
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Presidency? In 2024?
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I agree with you that she would fail. I just think it’s clear that she is seeking that path.
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I think she could very well have a good shot at winning the Dem Senate Primary in NY. The Democratic party is now much further left there than it was just 10 years ago.
And she could probably win statewide too. There hasn’t been a Republican elected statewide in New York since 2002. It is now Cook PVI D+12, as liberal a CA, VT, MA.
If Biden wins tomorrow, then 2024 likely not in the cards.
But if Biden loses there will be an enormous uproar on the Left arguing that the reason for the loss was because of a moderate old white guy and that Dems need a true progressive.
In that scenario, and with a 6-year Senate in her hip pocket, I don’t see why AOC *wouldn’t* run. Try to pull a Barack Obama and run while you have just enough experience to say you’re ready but not enough of a record to attack.
But man, I don’t see her winning even the national primary for President … and unless the US suddenly shifts [b]a lot[/b] to the left she’d get clobbered in a general election.
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I think she could very well have a good shot at winning the Dem Senate Primary in NY. The Democratic party is now much further left there than it was just 10 years ago.
And she could probably win statewide too. There has been a Republicans elected statewide in New York since 2002. It is now Cook PVI D+12, as liberal a CA, VT, MA.
If Biden wins tomorrow, then 2024 likely not in the cards.
[b]But if Biden loses there will be an enormous uproar on the Left arguing that the reason for the loss was because of a moderate old white guy and that Dems need a true progressive. [/b]
In that scenario, and with a 6-year Senate in her hip pocket, I don’t see why AOC *wouldn’t* run. Try to pull a Barack Obama and run while you have just enough experience to say you’re ready but not enough of a record to attack.
But man, I don’t see her winning even the national primary for President … and unless the US suddenly shifts [b]a lot[/b] to the left she’d get clobbered in a general election.
This is one of my big positives I take from this election if Biden wins. It keeps the extreme Left at bay for at least 8 more years probably. I have no qualms with the Democratic party of Clinton or even Obama/Biden. They can be reasoned with at least and deals can be made.
The Republican party went through their Tea Party shenanigans and the Dems will hopefully get through this socialist blip as well.
If Biden wins and Dems take the Senate, there is going to be a huge fight within the party. They came together to remove Trump but that’s about all they have in common. It will be fun to watch Nancy and Schumer go after AOC and her crew. -
Anyone wondering where the Republican party will be after Tuesday with the loss of Trump & who knows how many congressional seats?
Unlike 2008, there will NOT be an investigation about “What Went Wrong,” and how to correct, certainly NOT by being more inclusive.
I predict the Republican Party will make a hard swing deeper into Right wing zone, where Reagan won’t even make it as a RINO but will be seen as a Liberal Republican. And there will be more cult of personality from the Right defining how Republicans see the world. More immigration fear mongering.
In other words, doubling down on what they are today.
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Anyone wondering where the Republican party will be after Tuesday with the loss of Trump & who knows how many congressional seats?
Unlike 2008, there will NOT be an investigation about “What Went Wrong,” and how to correct, certainly NOT by being more inclusive.
I predict the Republican Party will make a hard swing deeper into Right wing zone, where Reagan won’t even make it as a RINO but will be seen as a Liberal Republican. And there will be more cult of personality from the Right defining how Republicans see the world. More immigration fear mongering.
In other words, doubling down on what they are today.
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If they lose they will try to shift back toward Romney style. If they win then they will stick with the new shifts of Trump.
Haley, Hawley, Cotton, Pence, and Desantis are likely to run in 2014.
Harris, AOC, Buttigieg, Cuomo likely for Dems
Just my guesses though.
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Also it would be bad for the country if it became AOC leftism vs. Cotton/Jordan style rightism.
I hope it’s more like cuomo vs haley. Not them necessarily but people that are relatively traditional to their parties.
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AOC is about to be de facto in charge starting tomorrow night. No need to wait for 2024.
Whatever gets the most hearts on instagram becomes law.
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The system under Trump is fudged. Were at the point that places are boarding up and the White House is being surrounded by fences. It took a whole 4 years for things to get absolutely chaotic. Morons trying to block traffic or stop the Biden bus. I dont see how people are voting for 4 more years of this nonsense.
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And who exactly are they boarded up to protect against? It sure as hell isnt the MAGA crowd.
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The MAGA crowd on their pickup trucks about to rush Nike stores to steal sneakers, hence boarded up.
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The system under Trump is fudged. Were at the point that places are boarding up and the White House is being surrounded by fences. It took a whole 4 years for things to get absolutely chaotic. Morons trying to block traffic or stop the Biden bus. I dont see how people are voting for 4 more years of this nonsense.
Why do you think they’re putting signs on those boards saying “We support BLM!” They’re boarding up to protect against BLM rioters and labeling themselves as sympathizers to protect their businesses from BLM. -
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If they lose they will try to shift back toward Romney style. If they win then they will stick with the new shifts of Trump.
Regardless, the Republican will shift more to the Right, whether they win or lose & especially if they lose.
Assuming Republican losses today, the Republicans left standing will be in deeper Red areas which automatically filters out any “moderates” if such a word can still be used these days for Republicans without inciting a riot of guffaws & recall the scene of John Belushi in Animal House coughing “BS!.” The Trumpist core will be very angry about losing and will demand more declarations of allegiance to Trumpism away from the Center. More ideologues. The spittle will be flying from the leftovers and Fox about galloping Socialism and make any bilateralism more impossible than it’s been since 2008. More fear, loathing and doubt.
When you lose, double down on what brought you there, it will energize the core. That is what TRump taught the GOP from their defeat in 2008. No limp-wristed compromise. The Degüello is the call, more now than ever. -
I don’t know what will come of the GOP. Putting the populist/nationalist genie back in the bottle might be a tough thing to do… but if they don’t then they risk losing a generation of suburban/female/brown/educated voters and have to swim against the demographic tide.
David Frum used the analogy of driving toward the end of a cul-de-sac. The farther the party drives the more anti-democratic behavior they must elicit to win and the greater percentage of the white non-college vote they have to get.
“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy. ”
We’re absolutely seeing that right now. There seems to be an overt acknowledgment by Republican operatives that if all the legal votes are actually counted and if voting is made easy they are doomed electorally.
At some point the GOP is going to have to take its lumps at the polls to become a majority party again … or they can continue onward as a minority party doing everything they can think of, including things that are very damaging to our democracy, in order to hold power.
(If Trump winds up winning the popular vote then… well … I guess I was all wrong … and the center of american politics is a *lot* further to the autocratic Right than I wanted to believe)
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Here’s an interesting scenario about this election that has not been discussed, what if Trump actually wins the popular vote and actually loses the College?
Now THAT would be interesting!
Imagine that! He will not easily accept losing if he loses both the popular vote and College – we are in for a couple of months discounting the votes and a lot of ranting from Trump & Republicans. But is he lost the College the way Hillary did? WOW, the words said and printed about a fraud election, a rigged election?
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Why should doctors be paid more than nurses? Equitable society means we all reach the same outcome. – President Harris
[link=https://reason.com/2020/11/02/kamala-harris-equality-equity-outcomes/]https://reason.com/2020/1…ality-equity-outcomes/[/link]
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Now there’s a realistic fear monger, everyone earning $15/hour regardless of anything and everything, docs, nurses, clerks, janitors, lawyers, techs, retail, Jeff Bezos & all the other CEO’s. And we’ll all live in little boxes. Identical, of course.
Yeah, a realistic fear. That’s exactly what Harris was driving at with equality. It’s always what Democrats are driving for when they speak of equality.
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lol I’m sure Harris would be first in line for $15/hr. Oh yeah, that’s right, in socialist systems the government-types get all the money and power.
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We can vote ourselves into socialism but we must remember that we will have to shoot our way out of it.
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We can vote ourselves into socialism but we must remember that we will have to shoot our way out of it.
Love it, 2nd Amendment solutions always from the Right to overrule democracy and democratic elections.
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We can vote ourselves into socialism but we must remember that we will have to shoot our way out of it.
Love it, 2nd Amendment solutions always from the Right to overrule democracy and democratic elections.
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We can vote ourselves into socialism but we must remember that we will have to shoot our way out of it.
Love it, 2nd Amendment solutions always from the Right to overrule democracy and democratic elections.
Oh, so now Frumi and the lefties are willing to say this election is okay now and its legitimate? But 2016 wasn’t?
Show me 1 place where I ever said 2016 was not legitimate.
Do it.
It will keep you busy from now to eternity finding nothing of the sort.
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lol I’m sure Harris would be first in line for $15/hr. Oh yeah, that’s right, in socialist systems the government-types get all the money and power.
Not accurate. That’s called Capitalism and Fascism as well as Communism.
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Yeah, a realistic fear. That’s exactly what Harris was driving at with equality. It’s always what Democrats are driving for when they speak of equality.
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The animation also shows how “equal” shares means different outcomes for people starting from very different levels. You jumped over that. Like providing a 6′ ladder to 2 people, one is 5′ away from the next level the other is 20 feet down and the ladder reaches nothing.
She is supporting policies like golf & Affirmative Action where the lesser get a handicap to even the playing field a bit better. The assist does not determine and ensure a tie between Tiger Woods and me playing him.
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Minorities do already get assistance.
They get bonuses and preferences for owning businesses, going to college and being hired for a job.
The issue is that these things are artificial and they don’t lead to progress. The way to truly assist these communities is to give them school choice from Kindergarten on up, give them the ability to fix up their neighborhoods with internal and external investments (similar to the opportunity zones but I would go further), and have good law and order (more and better trained cops).
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The animation also shows how “equal” shares means different outcomes for people starting from very different levels. You jumped over that. Like providing a 6′ ladder to 2 people, one is 5′ away from the next level the other is 20 feet down and the ladder reaches nothing.
She is supporting policies like golf & Affirmative Action where the lesser get a handicap to even the playing field a bit better. The assist does not determine and ensure a tie between Tiger Woods and me playing him.
The argument is dumb. No one in the world is preaching “equality” the way the Right hears equality.
I guess I’m not all that worried because no matter how much you help someone out by taking the struggle away and giving handouts they will never end up at the same outcome because they don’t have the same work ethic (Tiger Woods was the perfect example, thank you for that). The part where the right gets worried is how she literally said equity is the same OUTCOME. They would have to beat down (e.g. tax the hell out of them) the hard workers and overachievers like everyone on this message board to have equal outcomes.
In the US we guaranteed that everyone can pursue their happiness as hard as they want to. We didn’t guarantee happiness itself. No matter how many handouts and ladders we give people, unlike the cartoon, they actually have to make the jump and put in the work which clearly isn’t happening since welfare programs began. When you take away the pursuit part of the equation, man does not want to try anymore. Just look at the difference between kids that are given cars and those that have to work for them. They have a stake and ownership interest, and a pride in their hard work and achievement.
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Yep. And things like this happen when you try to artificially fix things.
[link=https://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/the-sad-irony-of-affirmative-action]https://www.nationalaffai…-of-affirmative-action[/link] -
And there are many who believe Affirmative Action helped a lot. Harris is one for example. The article does not disprove her experience.
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So Harris’s opinion and anecdotal experience is more important than the data?
Also, the only reason Harris is where she is today is because she slept with this guy – [link=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/01/27/willie-brown-kamala-harris-san-francisco-chronicle-letter/2695143002/]https://www.usatoday.com/…cle-letter/2695143002/[/link]
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So Harris’s opinion and anecdotal experience is more important than the data?
Also, the only reason Harris is where she is today is because she slept with this guy – [link=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/01/27/willie-brown-kamala-harris-san-francisco-chronicle-letter/2695143002/]https://www.usatoday.com/…cle-letter/2695143002/[/link]
I suppose that’s one way to work hard for your job.
Yes, there is not such thing as talented and skilled women, they all slept their way to money and power.
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Way to generalize. Typical. I’m talking about only Kamala. No one disputes she slept her way up.
Did she do fine when she got there? Sure. But, she wouldn’t have been in that spot otherwise. That’s the leg up she got and she “earned” it. I’m not disparaging her at all honestly. Frankly, I’m in the camp of do what you need to do so long as it’s legal and ethical. What she did is borderline ethical to some people but it happens all the time.
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[size=”0″]But that is the issue, unequal opportunity. If a handicap makes sense in golf, why is it illegitimate for people?[/size]
It doesn’t make sense in golf. Its not used in real, pro, PGATour golf, silly.
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DUH, everyone in pro golf is already selected for top skills. No, I am not entering the PGA to play against Tiger Woods with me having a massive handicap. Yeah, just think about the viewership to see me flub so many shots with Tiger.
& what is it with these absolute arguments by you people? Making EVERYONE happy? That’s the goal as you people see it.
As for fair, that’s the argument against affirmative action, is it not? That it’s not fair to white applicants because it employs the same rules handicapping minorities against the privileged class that the privileged have in society in general?
That’s the problem, a false premise to start with. How about just equal opportunity not the rigged system of red-lining neighborhoods for example. It’s not as iff those red-lined communities all suddenly disappeared overnight. -
And read your article, not the headline. It is not a condemnation of Affirmative Action as a failure. It’s much more nuanced.
I mean consider Brown vs the Board of Education. Is addressing the inequality argued by the case somehow discriminating for the black schools vs white schools? Is addressing the inequality arguing for equal outcomes, everyone is a winner & gets a trophy? The same trophy.
In concluding that race-preferential admissions policies were beneficial to minority students, and that the Court should therefore make an exception to the otherwise overwhelming presumption against racially discriminatory laws and policies, Justice O’Connor’s citation to The Shape of the River was explicit. But even without such a citation, it is clear that the Court’s decision was premised on a belief that race-preferential admissions were helping, or at least not hurting, African-American and Hispanic students.
Of course, under Grutter, increased campus diversity was said to benefit all students, not just under-represented minorities. Consequently, racial discrimination to obtain that benefit was deemed permissible. But minority students are not public utilities; their futures should not be sacrificed to serve broader goals of social engineering. And it is difficult to imagine a college or university knowingly employing race-preferential admissions to give white and Asian students an advantage at the expense of African-American and Hispanic students. The Grutter decision thus would have been unthinkable in the absence of a strong conviction by the Court that affirmative action was providing minority students with a substantial advantage, not a disadvantage.
The [[i]Grutter[/i]]decision largely upheld the Court’s decision in [i][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regents_of_the_University_of_California_v._Bakke]Regents of the University of California v. Bakke[/link][/i] (1978), which allowed race to be a consideration in admissions policy but held [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_quota]racial quotas[/link] to be unconstitutional. In [i][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratz_v._Bollinger]Gratz v. Bollinger[/link][/i] (2003) a separate case decided on the same day as [i]Grutter[/i], the Court struck down a points-based admissions system that awarded an automatic bonus to the admissions scores of minority applicants.
The author’s opinion is that no handicap is appropriate to address inequality.
Now it is becoming evident that it was all a mistake. The strong constitutional presumption against race discrimination in all its forms, which must be firm and unchanging to be effective, was laid aside for no good reason.
To compare this to Brown and the doll experiments, one would have to imagine that Brown had come out the other wayin favor of racially segregated schoolsbecause the Court had some reason to believe that Jim Crow was benefiting all students. If later, more sophisticated research had exposed that belief as erroneous, it would be incumbent upon the Supreme Court to return to the principle that race discrimination should not be tolerated.
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And read your article, not the headline. It is not a condemnation of Affirmative Action as a failure. It’s much more nuanced.
I mean consider Brown vs the Board of Education. Is addressing the inequality argued by the case somehow discriminating for the black schools vs white schools? Is addressing the inequality arguing for equal outcomes, everyone is a winner & gets a trophy? The same trophy.
In concluding that race-preferential admissions policies were beneficial to minority students, and that the Court should therefore make an exception to the otherwise overwhelming presumption against racially discriminatory laws and policies, Justice O’Connor’s citation to The Shape of the River was explicit. But even without such a citation, it is clear that the Court’s decision was premised on a belief that race-preferential admissions were helping, or at least not hurting, African-American and Hispanic students.
Of course, under Grutter, increased campus diversity was said to benefit all students, not just under-represented minorities. Consequently, racial discrimination to obtain that benefit was deemed permissible. But minority students are not public utilities; their futures should not be sacrificed to serve broader goals of social engineering. And it is difficult to imagine a college or university knowingly employing race-preferential admissions to give white and Asian students an advantage at the expense of African-American and Hispanic students. The Grutter decision thus would have been unthinkable in the absence of a strong conviction by the Court that affirmative action was providing minority students with a substantial advantage, not a disadvantage.
The [[i]Grutter[/i]]decision largely upheld the Court’s decision in [i][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regents_of_the_University_of_California_v._Bakke]Regents of the University of California v. Bakke[/link][/i] (1978), which allowed race to be a consideration in admissions policy but held [link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_quota]racial quotas[/link] to be unconstitutional. In [i][link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratz_v._Bollinger]Gratz v. Bollinger[/link][/i] (2003) a separate case decided on the same day as [i]Grutter[/i], the Court struck down a points-based admissions system that awarded an automatic bonus to the admissions scores of minority applicants.
The author’s opinion is that no handicap is appropriate to address inequality.
Now it is becoming evident that it was all a mistake. The strong constitutional presumption against race discrimination in all its forms, which must be firm and unchanging to be effective, was laid aside for no good reason.
To compare this to Brown and the doll experiments, one would have to imagine that Brown had come out the other wayin favor of racially segregated schoolsbecause the Court had some reason to believe that Jim Crow was benefiting all students. If later, more sophisticated research had exposed that belief as erroneous, it would be incumbent upon the Supreme Court to return to the principle that race discrimination should not be tolerated.
I am unmoved by her reasoning.
You would be unmoved even if there was overwhelming evidence. Similar to the people who are unmoved by the facts that women graduate HS and college and attain more higher level degrees than men. Similar to the people who still talk about a “wage gap” when it’s been proven many times over that the gap is due to other factors than gender. -
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You would be unmoved even if there was overwhelming evidence. Similar to the people who are unmoved by the facts that women graduate HS and college and attain more higher level degrees than men. Similar to the people who still talk about a “wage gap” when it’s been proven many times over that the gap is due to other factors than gender.
Look, you posted the link, presumably because of the headline not your reading of the article. & now you can’t defend your rationale so you cry sour grapes.
I made a cogent argument, you have yet to make one. So don’t tell me about my opinion in spite of overwhelming evidence. You haven’t presented evidence or an argument much less an overwhelming anything. -
Hurts Asians the most, not whites. It wouldn’t change much for whites actually.
[link=https://www.thedailybeast.com/affirmative-action-who-does-it-help-who-does-it-hurt]https://www.thedailybeast…-help-who-does-it-hurt[/link]
[link=https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/10/the-painful-truth-about-affirmative-action/263122/]https://www.theatlantic.c…rmative-action/263122/[/link]
And I wouldn’t say you gave me a good argument of why we should show preference to a person for anything based on their skin color alone, not to mention why that isn’t racist.
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Box of rocks.
No, Wells Fargo is not operating a pipeline.If you’re worried about “boxes of rocks,” you need to pay more attention to Trump’s boxes.
Let’s see, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau head Kathy Kraninger could not explain or calculate APR! The head of a financial department does not understand APR?
DUH!
As for “Honest Abe” Sloan, his own lawyers said his statement and assurances that he had addressed past ripoffs of customers by Wells Fargo a thing of the past, that Sloan had made fundamental changes and that the problems “had been fixed” as mere “puffery.”
Sloans vows to restore trust, according to court filings from the banks own lawyers, are mere corporate puffery that no reasonable investor could rely on.
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My daddy watches Fox News then runs to the bathroom for 10 minutes with an AOC picture
But daddy says she is bad
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Box of rocks.
No, Wells Fargo is not operating a pipeline.If you’re worried about “boxes of rocks,” you need to pay more attention to Trump’s boxes.
Let’s see, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau head Kathy Kraninger could not explain or calculate APR! The head of a financial department does not understand APR?
DUH!
As for “Honest Abe” Sloan, his own lawyers said his statement and assurances that he had addressed past ripoffs of customers by Wells Fargo a thing of the past, that Sloan had made fundamental changes and that the problems “had been fixed” as mere “puffery.”
Sloans vows to restore trust, according to court filings from the banks own lawyers, are mere corporate puffery that no reasonable investor could rely on.
Looks like Democrats need some rocks to break the pipeline of lies from corporations as well as this incompetent administration.
White collar crimes should be prosecuted. The only ones I can think of are Bernie Madoff, Parma Bro, and now this college admissions thing. Everything else is just pay the fine and go back to scamming. The payday usury BS should be illegal.
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Yes, kpack, we know that Democrats are the party for the rich.
More “OF” the rich and less “For” the rich. Check the economies, the Democratic urban areas and blue states generally have higher economies and incomes than the Red states and rural economies.
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Education is a huge factor too
For some reason during the past 25 years republicans have been anti higher education
Perhaps those darn liberal elites just know too darn much
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Blue states don’t believe in alternate facts like the Red States teach.
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Who and who you arent impressed by isnt really important
Im betting that probably didnt give a flying F about you either
You just keep letting Fox News and the far right media tell you how to think………. anger envy and the desire to fight will never defeat the truth and the facts in the big scheme of things
Thats why people like you never have sheet….. too busy being angry and petty
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Education =/= wisdom.
I was unimpressed by most of my classmates in med school. A farmer has more sense than most of them did.
Can’t say “most” physicians but many leave me unimpressed too. I live in farm country. Some of them leave me unimpressed about them as they aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed.
And that sort of “observation” is largely self-serving. Perhaps they return the favor and opinion.
But then those things can be said in general about most every group. As “some say,” “There are bozos on ‘both’ sides.”
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Because it brings thousands of jobs and supports the local economy
The restaurants hotels and small businesses all benefit from 15-20,000 new jobs
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The Right Obsessing over Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Character assassination as another distraction from Trump’s antics.
[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/02/16/conservatives-cant-stop-obsessing-over-ocasio-cortez-their-latest-target-her-boyfriend]https://www.washingtonpos…t-target-her-boyfriend[/link]
First, it was her [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/16/eddie-scarry-tweet-about-alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-clothing-is-latest-critique-about-class/]clothing[/link]. Then her [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/03/video-ocasio-cortez-dancing-college-leaked-internet-finds-it-adorable/?utm_term=.1c4dff60f215]dancing[/link]. Not to mention her [link=https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1094110726468325376]credit score[/link], her [link=https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-claims-of-not-being-to-afford-dc-apartment-crumbles-under-scrutiny]apartment[/link], her [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/12/alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-new-favorite-pastime-appears-be-trolling-conservative-critics/?utm_term=.3c557d1188f6]hometown[/link]. Maybe it was only a matter of time before right-wing trolls went after Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezs love life.
The fast-growing conspiracy seems to have originated from a few would-be sleuths who found her boyfriends name, Riley Roberts, listed in online House directories with a mail.house.gov email address. Thus, he must be on her staff.
Well, theyre partly correct. Roberts [i]does[/i] have a House email address, but, as a spokesperson for the chambers Office of the Chief Administrative Officer explained, that [i]does not[/i] mean hes an employee.
Merely one such example: In July 2018, John Cardillo, host of a Newsmax show, [link=https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1013463926254731265]tweeted a photo[/link] of Ocasio-Cortezs childhood home in Westchester County, N.Y. He wrote, This is the Yorktown Heights (very nice area) home @Ocasio2018 grew up in
Then-candidate Ocasio-Cortez responded forcefully, [link=https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1013480623531593735]writing[/link], “[size=”0″]It is nice. Growing up, it was a good town for working people. My mom scrubbed toilets so I could live here & I grew up seeing how the Zip code one is born in determines much of their opportunity.[/size]
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In a January interview, responding to a phony nude selfie that the Daily Caller promoted (before walking back its headline), [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/what-have-you-got-left-ocasio-cortez-taunts-gop-critics-obsessing-over-her/2019/01/15/a48b5832-1455-11e9-803c-4ef28312c8b9_story.html?utm_term=.f574b210e457]Ocasio-Cortez told The Post[/link] that her right wing detractors were out of all their artillery.
The nude is supposed to be like the bazooka. You know, like, Were going to take her down,” she said, possibly anticipating future provocations. Dude, youre all out of bullets, youre all out of bombs, youre all out of all this stuff. What have you got left?
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Also I believe I heard a comment where she thought that the $3B they “saved” (referring to tax incentives used to draw in Amazon) could now be spent on infrastructure
‘Thats not how this works, that’s not how any of this works.’
The reason the numbers for the economic development incentives in NYS are so big is because their business taxes are so onerous. If you are a state that charges no corporate income tax, forgiving it in exchange for jobs does you no good.
I bet Amazon got blowback from their talent. WA has no personal income tax and NYC has a tax on top of the high NYS taxes. For someone who makes good money, the high COL and taxes in NY are a drag .
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The vast majority of Their talent would not have had to move
This is basically Amazon saying we will do whats best for Amazon
NYC wanted to play by NYC rules
In one week Bezos told the National Enquirer and The NYC establishment to F off
Thats all this about
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My bet is they go to Northern Virginia
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AOCs politics arent my perfect cup of tea. But she is obviously quite bright.
Ive watched her acquit herself quite well during congressional hearings.
With the Wells Fargo CEO she was effective.
With Wilbur Ross on the 2020 census citizenship question she was strong.
And with Michael Cohen I think you could argue that she was the most effective member of Congress. She dug deep and got new names that will lead to additional hearings.
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If you think AOC is bright you must
travel in pretty dim circles.better.
AOC started out insisting that Wells Fargo backed the Dakota Access Pipeline and the Keystone XL pipeline.
This is bad, she said, because the Keystone XL pipeline recently leaked 210,000 gallons of oil across South Dakota.
Only one problem: The Keystone XL pipeline doesnt exist yet. The confused congressman appeared to be referring to the Keystone pipeline thats been operating since 2010. But even in that case, Wells Fargo, as its CEO noted to AOC, has not financed the project.
AOC worked as a bartender. Surely she must accept some responsibility for the alcoholism and liver disease she supported.
AOC is a nothing more than a puppet. She is far from bright.
These politicians you consider bright were the dumbest kids
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Apparently you were born omniscient, IR. A worship of 1.
She is still green but has shown herself to be a very confident quick study so far. Shes got nothing to be embarrassed about. Especially in comparison to the intelligent statements & knowledge of her adversaries, specifically the President & his handlers & supporters who believe in an alternate facts universe.
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She briefly misspoke and swapped Keystone XL for Dakota Access *gasp* … it completely voids her entire argument! #rollseyes
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[b]Ocasio-Cortez Not Sure She Wants to Stay In Politics[/b][/h1]
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) told the [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/07/us/politics/aoc-biden-progressives.html]New York Times[/link] she isnt sure if she still wants to be in politics anymore.
Said Ocasio-Cortez: The last two years have been pretty hostile. Externally, weve been winning. Externally, theres been a ton of support, but internally, its been extremely hostile to anything that even smells progressive.-
be the change you need by quitting. There’s probably something to be said about that. If you quit and go to work for the $$$ side you can probably get a lot more done lobbying than working in congress. The plutocracy wins.
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Maybe she’ll go for Governor instead gunning for Chuck Schumer ….
[link=https://www.axios.com/aoc-cuomo-nursing-homes-covid-e92f71c2-c9a3-4853-8249-3a4115e23759.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=politics-cuomo]https://www.axios.com/aoc-cuomo-nurs…politics-cuomo[/link]
[h1]AOC calls for “full investigation” into Cuomo’s handling of nursing homes[/h1]-
For Chuck? I don’t think her support is that strong to unseat & replace Chuck.
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[link=https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/02/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-interview-progressive-democrats-00088792?mkt_tok=NTU2LVlFRS05NjkAAAGK5tDyA_q8I3cwPdPe7H3XLgBjZ2aB8AveRIsvTJFUdLJgYlRFGxOLqpZB5Bd2w__V-2sdJY2QNUza_qYri0d8DxwTdKpfhZiQeAYU_2HMldqN]Politico[/link]
[h2][b]From agitator to insider: The evolution of AOC[/b][/h2] The New York Democrat, in a wide-ranging interview, tackled her really surreal start in Congress and the space shes carved out in the party fold.
Her evolution is driven partly by a new political reality for her party: Democrats lost the House last year, and progressives have found a lot to like in Joe Bidens first two years in the White House. But Ocasio-Cortezs shift also comes as the 33-year-old lawmaker is mulling her next steps.
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In a lengthy recent interview in her Capitol Hill office, Ocasio-Cortez wouldnt rule out any number of options, from challenging Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) next year (dont ask me that question print that, she said with a laugh), to remaining in the House for the long haul or, perhaps, leaving Congress entirely.
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If Ocasio-Cortezs growing involvement in internal party strategy is chipping away at younger liberals affection for her, it didnt show in the reverence with which {Rep. Maxwell} Frost {(D-Fla.), who at 26 is the youngest elected member of Congress, being mentored by AOC,} escribed her mentorship. Among the lessons hes learned from her, he said, was being a badass motherf*cker.
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[b]Ocasio-Cortez Wont Challenge Gillibrand[/b][/h1]
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), one of Sen. Kyrsten Gillibrands (D-NY) strongest possible primary challengers, is all but closing the door on a possible run, [link=https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/30/aoc-is-not-planning-to-run-for-senate-in-2024-00094454]Politico[/link] reports.
Said a spokesperson: She is not planning to run for Senate in 2024. She is not planning to primary Gillibrand.
