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Academic Jobs
Posted by Unknown Member on November 18, 2020 at 2:28 pmRemoved due to GDPR request
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Deleted UserNovember 18, 2020 at 3:15 pmWhat was the salary?
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wash u STL is less than 300 for a “community” rad. UW seatlle was same for Neuro. you can make more sitting in your boxers at home. but no one there to thump your chest to.
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Its probably best to keep the number discussion out of public, but I am sure we can make a decent guess (likely about 60% of current private associates starting year).
I too am surprised that people are willing to take these positions, but hey we all drink a certain koolaid right? Lol
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Deleted UserNovember 18, 2020 at 3:32 pm
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Its probably best to keep the number discussion out of public, but I am sure we can make a decent guess (likely about 60% of current private associates starting year).
I too am surprised that people are willing to take these positions, but hey we all drink a certain koolaid right? Lol
I would worry more about what RP and Envision know about rad salaries. The “public” is not very sophisticated and have no say in the healthcare system anyway. LOL
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Deleted UserNovember 18, 2020 at 3:52 pmHopkins offers one of the worst packages. High volume for peanuts. And Baltimore is not the best place to live. That’s the price they pay to be part of “Hopkins doctors club”.
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Hopkins is the lowest I’ve seen. MIR/WashU raised their salaries a bit but still low. Have heard the NE Ivory tower places are low but can’t confirm.
CCF and Mayo are the most by far (~ to a PP job)…that is if you consider them to be “academic.”
It’s supposed to be a ratio of how much work you’re doing vs. research and teaching. Cranking studies makes money and the other things don’t. Nowadays though a lot of academic types are being asked to crank the list too as these academic places buy up community hospitals. Salaries need to come up. I can’t even imagine the bank these C-suite ladies and gents are pulling in.-
If interested in academics and it isnt about ego, I have seen starting salaries as good or better than private practices at academic jobs outside of the major cities. These jobs are about clinical work and teaching without research. Without the research expectation comes less stress. These days only a handful of institutions still provide the time and resources to support research anyway.
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Deleted UserNovember 18, 2020 at 7:27 pmI certainly understand why a fellow would take an academic job.
Why would a warfighter prefer to serve under the flag over being a private military contractor when the latter is much more lucrative?
Compensation, and sense of fulfillment, comes in different forms.
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Deleted UserNovember 19, 2020 at 5:44 amRemoved due to GDPR request
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Deleted UserNovember 19, 2020 at 9:01 am
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I certainly understand why a fellow would take an academic job.
Why would a warfighter prefer to serve under the flag over being a private military contractor when the latter is much more lucrative?
Compensation, and sense of fulfillment, comes in different forms.
A lot of these academic jobs are not what is in your mind e.g. teaching, interacting with residents and fellows, multidisciplinary conferences and etc.
Many of academic jobs these days is working on your own in a satellite clinic or in the new hospital that the academic center has acquired for “better service” with minimal interaction with the rest of department.
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Leftist bureaucracies don’t get better – they must crumble first. Corporate and government have been moving in this direction for years. If you can stay away from it without getting crushed volume wise, indeed, stay away.
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I’m guessing if you have some perceived obligation to go into academics, such as graduating an MSTP, people take academic jobs not to get in the sour eye from advisors. Taking a private practice after MD/PhD is like joining the dark side
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Deleted UserNovember 20, 2020 at 3:19 pmI would say the best possible scenario is a hybrid; a clinic, the epitome being Mayo. High level expertise, yet still a clinical rad.
There are a lot of second rate academic jobs out there; where you get an appointment to be a pseudo expert. I worked in one. Decided to bag it and go into pp. Probably a better rad for doing it, and more wealthy to boot.
Still, looking back, Mayo, CC, and a few others would have been a more intellectually exciting choice. See great pathology currently, but not many colleagues to share it with.
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What are the benchmarks for academic rads starting salaries?
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What are the benchmarks for academic rads starting salaries?
There really aren’t any. They range from “very low” at the big name places on the east coast to “pretty damned competitive” at the academic-lite supra-regional mega-systems in the upper Midwest.
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Deleted UserNovember 24, 2020 at 7:01 am
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What are the benchmarks for academic rads starting salaries?
There really aren’t any. They range from “very low” at the big name places on the east coast to “pretty damned competitive” at the academic-lite supra-regional mega-systems in the upper Midwest.
Isn’t this the same with private practice?
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I would say the best possible scenario is a hybrid; a clinic, the epitome being Mayo. High level expertise, yet still a clinical rad.
There are a lot of second rate academic jobs out there; where you get an appointment to be a pseudo expert. I worked in one. Decided to bag it and go into pp. Probably a better rad for doing it, and more wealthy to boot.
Still, looking back, Mayo, CC, and a few others would have been a more intellectually exciting choice. See great pathology currently, but not many colleagues to share it with.
I agree, if the colleagues aren’t there to share it with … just go help people and make the loot. Most of us don’t want to do this forever anyway, and even if we do, we wanna go home or do other things with a little more loot. Not ego boost. -
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Deleted UserNovember 23, 2020 at 6:48 pmHey multiple personality disorder
When are you paying me my money
I will take the 500$ now
We can figure out the rest later
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Hey multiple personality disorder
When are you paying me my money
I will take the 500$ now
We can figure out the rest later
When you admit you are kpack, I’ll pay you (since you call me names and don’t hold yourself to the same standard)
Plus, no one is elected yet, fool. Go back to civics, not that you care about the country or anything. -
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Deleted UserNovember 25, 2020 at 4:25 pmBull
Im not Kpack
Pay me
500$ Amazon gift card
Send it to my pm
You
Are the tough guy betting everyone calling everyone names for not bettingPay up or you will be forever known as a welchet and a multi personality poster
Cant get much lower
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Find 5 people on here that say you are not kpack. Please. Just try.
This also from the guy that called all the other names who were different, the same guy. You are schizo man
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