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2024 Republican Candidates for President
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Diminished Trump Leaves 2024 Vacuum[/h1]
[link=https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/15/donald-trump-vacuum-2024-presidential-candidates-459536]Politico[/link]: As the politically diminished president prepares to leave office following a deadly pro-Trump riot at the Capitol and an impeachment vote backed by 10 GOP House members, ambitious Republicans are taking steps to burnish their own profiles and present themselves as future leaders of the party.
While some are gradually separating themselves from the president, others are publicizing plans to bolster the party as it heads into the post-Trump era. Some are even sparring with other potential 2024 rivals in plain sight, marking a strikingly early start to public presidential maneuvering.-
The candidate for 2024 will amp up the populism rhetoric, while distancing themselves from the White supremacy/Qanon crowd. I expect a minority candidate. This would create a lot of trouble for the democrats, especially if economic conditions do not drastically improve post-pandemic.
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I expect no minority candidate would survive the Republican primary. Not for a generation at least. Unless it’s some guy in blackface.
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I could absolutely see Nikki Haley winning the GOP nomination
Especially if they are running against Harris
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On Haley, I’m still from Misery.
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Is it just me or have the trump supporters/Covid truthers been awfully quiet on this forum lately?
I wonder why
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Is it just me or have the trump supporters/Covid truthers been awfully quiet on this forum lately?
I wonder why
It’s a pretty common phenomenon.
Don’t worry though. The right wing media will find Biden’s benghazi soon enough and then all the AMcons will all flock back to say what a scandal ridden catastrophe the administration is and how we’re only hours away from President Kamala.-
Haley might be a mixed race person but she certainly has played herself up as a white lady. Anglosized name and all.
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Is it just me or have the trump supporters/Covid truthers been awfully quiet on this forum lately?
I wonder why
You can’t have discussions with the propagandized who never think for themselves. Cubsfan is the last man standing, and he has to suffer through more idiocy I have called him an idiot for even bothering anymore.-
The Nikki Haley talk shows how little any of you guys know about politics at all. A great example of how totally oblivious to reality you all are.
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[h1]Trump Is In a Historically Strong Position for 2024[/h1]
[link=https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/30/politics/trump-2024-analysis/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_allpolitics+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Politics%29]Harry Enten[/link]: Trumps in a historically strong primary position for an ex-president. Indeed, hes polling tremendously well among Republicans in the context for any future presidential nominee.
Republican leaders go against Trump at their potential electoral peril. Its not that other Republicans cant beat Trump. Well have to wait and see on that. Rather, its that he could be a very big voice over the next four years._____
Sidebar to all AM/OT participants: If right now you could be guaranteed an incumbent Biden vs challenger Trump race in 2024 would you the odds for your favored side?
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It depends
If the economic is good in 2023-24 Biden would win by a larger margin
If not trump
Could again lose the popular vote and win the electoral college-
Its been a pendulum. Swings one and swings back harder the other way.
I think its too early to tell. Biden admin needs to get things done. If things go well for four years I think that peels off more fringe Trump voters. And really you dont need to get a lot of the votes to win.
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Trump being silenced on social media is a very big deal and will hurt his chances in 2024.
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Trump being silenced on social media is a very big deal and will hurt his chances in 2024.
I’m one of the the least politically savvy individuals on this forum but it seems to me that Trumps political career is over
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Pay me weasel boy
You made a bet now pay up
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[h1][b]Nikki Haley Breaks with Trump as she readies 2024 Presidential Run[/b][/h1]
[link=https://www.politico.com/interactives/2021/magazine-nikki-haleys-choice/]Tim Alberta[/link] has a long, must-read profile of Nikki Haley, who is widely expected to run for president in 2024.
Heres how she sees Donald Trumps legacy: We need to acknowledge he let us down. He went down a path he shouldnt have, and we shouldnt have followed him, and we shouldnt have listened to him. And we cant let that ever happen again.
More on Trump: I dont think hes going to be in the pictureI dont think he can. Hes fallen so far.
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She’s putting out the statement that she can cherry pick from. However, I think she’s going to have a hard time explaining the flip flopping
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I think its going to be Josh Hawley. He really stood out with this whole election crisis thing.
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“stood out” …. he certainly did
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The nail that sticks out gets the hammer.
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nice little piece reported from Nebraska:
[link=https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-donald-trump-censures-omaha-ben-sasse-a9af5767d6c7e1b6cc8912a60aeda8af]https://apnews.com/articl…c7e1b6cc8912a60aeda8af[/link]
[b]Ben Sasse bets political future on opposing Trump
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Of the small number of Republican senators whove sided with Democrats on impeachment, only the 48-year-old Sasse is viewed as still aspiring to higher office. He is, in effect, betting theres a political future in trying to fight for the comeback of the establishment Republican party.
We still agree on some big things, he said in his video, pointing to values his party often promoted before Trump. Rule of law. Constitutionalism. Limited government.
Even in Nebraska, Sasse has some reason to think theres a market for what hes selling.[/QUOTE]
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She’s putting out the statement that she can cherry pick from. However, I think she’s going to have a hard time explaining the flip flopping
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[h1][b]Nikki Haley Breaks with Trump as she readies 2024 Presidential Run[/b][/h1]
[link=https://www.politico.com/interactives/2021/magazine-nikki-haleys-choice/]Tim Alberta[/link] has a long, must-read profile of Nikki Haley, who is widely expected to run for president in 2024.Heres how she sees Donald Trumps legacy: We need to acknowledge he let us down. He went down a path he shouldnt have, and we shouldnt have followed him, and we shouldnt have listened to him. And we cant let that ever happen again.
More on Trump: I dont think hes going to be in the pictureI dont think he can. Hes fallen so far.
This is what you get if you are a Republican who tries to have it both ways in your criticims of Trump. ….. nothing.
You are either all for him or he turns on you.
[link=https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook-pm/2021/02/18/trump-snubs-haley-491802]https://www.politico.com/…ump-snubs-haley-491802[/link]
” [b]NIKKI HALEY [/b]reached out to former President [b]DONALD TRUMP[/b] on Wednesday to request a sit-down at Mar-a-Lago, but … he turned her down. The two havent spoken since the insurrection on Jan. 6, when Haley blasted Trump for inciting his supporters to storm the Capitol.”
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[link=https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/16/covid-ron-desantis-2024-469071?cid=apn]https://www.politico.com/…is-2024-469071?cid=apn[/link]
Covid launches DeSantis into top tier of GOP.
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Ron DeSantis once drew national scorn for his stewardship of Floridas Covid-19 response critics took to referring to the governor as [link=https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2020/07/28/florida-lawyer-fundraising-to-put-a-ron-deathsantis-billboard-outside-of-the-governors-mansion]DeathSantis[/link] for his resistance to restrictive measures.
But that very blowback marked by predictions of doom and widespread criticism for being [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/coronavirus-ravaged-florida-as-ron-desantis-sidelined-scientists-and-followed-trump/2020/07/25/0b8008da-c648-11ea-b037-f9711f89ee46_story.html]divorced from science[/link] has made DeSantis ascendant in the GOP. His position is strengthened among the GOP grassroots and elites heading into his 2022 reelection in Florida and accompanied by increasing conservative chatter nationwide about a presidential bid.”
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Trump Will Lose If He Runs Again[/h1]
[link=https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-smears-dont-diminish-mcconnell-11613603493?mod=opinion_lead_pos8]Karl Rove[/link]: Mr. Trump may not be fully aware of shifting currents among congressional Republicans. More members now admit privately that Mr. Trump had no coattails in last falls election. Especially in the suburbs, some Republicans and many GOP-leaning independents refused to take his lawn signs or support him. Thats why so many Republican congressional candidates ran ahead of the former president.
Mr. Trump crowed Tuesday that he received the most votes of any sitting President in history. Then again, Joe Biden received more votes than any candidate in historyand seven million more votes than Mr. Trump.
Despite possessing all the powers of incumbency and leading a united GOP, Mr. Trump lost the presidency. If he returned for another White House contest, leading a divided party at war with itself and out of power, hed be wiped out. -
[h1]Nikki Haleys Tortured Path to 2024[/h1]
[link=https://morningshots.thebulwark.com/p/flyin-ted?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxMTM1MDIsInBvc3RfaWQiOjMyNjk4ODMyLCJfIjoiWFhadSsiLCJpYXQiOjE2MTM3NDcxNDIsImV4cCI6MTYxMzc1MDc0MiwiaXNzIjoicHViLTg3MjcyIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.wyHttg3IS5FDix6iTDFCOAUSPkOgs0DKyDq6bDfTlgc]Charlie Sykes[/link] reviews Nikki Haleys political judgement so far this year as she positions herself for a presidential run:
[ul][*]Shes [link=https://politicalwire.com/2021/01/07/nikki-haley-says-history-will-judge-trump-harshly/]broken with Trump[/link] over his handling of the Capitol riot.[*]She walked that back, declaring [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/26/give-man-break-nikki-haley-drags-trumpism-rock-bottom/]Give the man a break![/link][*]She broke with Trump again, [link=https://politicalwire.com/2021/02/12/nikki-haley-must-choose-sides/]telling Tim Alberta[/link] that He went down a path he shouldnt have, and we shouldnt have followed him, and we shouldnt have listened to him. And we cant let that ever happen again.[*]She walked that back, with an [link=https://politicalwire.com/2021/02/17/nikki-haley-does-clean-up/]op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal[/link], in which she gushed about Trumps extraordinary successes and blamed the liberal media for wanting to stoke a nonstop Republican civil war.[*]She tried to follow that up with a pilgrimage to Mar-a-Lago, [link=https://politicalwire.com/2021/02/18/trump-turns-down-nikki-haley-request-for-meeting/]which Trump declined[/link].[/QUOTE] [/ul]
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She was for Trump before she was against him before she was for him and then against him.
Follow the bouncing ball….
Someday we’ll know where she stands for the nation and Constitution. Just not yet, she’s still testing the wind direction. The singular thing in her favor is that she is hardly alone with many Republicans trying to figure out where they stand between Trump & the nation and Constitution.
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Trump to Claim Total Control of GOP as “Presumptive 2024 Nominee”[/h1]
In his first post-presidential appearance, Donald Trump plans to send the message next weekend that he is Republicans presumptive 2024 nominee with a vise grip on the partys base, [link=https://www.axios.com/trump-2024-republican-party-cpac-b687bd9f-6702-47cb-b1ac-d112deb23880.html]Axios[/link] reports.
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[link=https://politicalwire.com/2021/02/23/an-unusually-valuable-poll-for-republicans/]An Unusually Valuable Poll For Republicans
[/link][b]DeSantis Leads Rubio and Scott in FL Presidential Primary Poll[/b]
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The results were surprising: despite arguably weaker roots in the state, DeSantis clobbers Rubio and Scott with a more than 50-point (!) lead over both.
Obviously, things can change, but for me, this is some of the clearest evidence yet of where the Republican Party is likely headed in the coming years.
Primary voters decide the arc of their parties, and DeSantiss popularity here certainly tracks with a path thats Trumpist to a large degree. But DeSantis has also flexed a lot of power as Governor and seems to occupy the outsider governor lane similar to George W. Bush in Texas leading up to his presidential run in 2000.
This might just be where Republican primary voters head still hungry for the grievance politics of this era, but giving a strong edge to politicians who can match it with actual governance.
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Makes sense to me. Rubio hasn’t done anything despite me having high hopes for him years ago.
I also firmly believe that Governors make the best Presidents. It’s the best experience you can have for the job, especially of big states.
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[h1][b]Romney Says Trump Would Win GOP Nomination[/b][/h1]
Sen. Mitt Romney (R-UT) said Donald Trump likely would win the GOP presidential nomination if he decided to run again in 2024, [link=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-23/romney-says-trump-would-win-2024-gop-nomination-if-he-runs]Bloomberg[/link] reports.
Said Romney: He has by far the largest voice and a big impact in my party. I dont know if hes planning to run in 2024 or not, but if he does, Im pretty sure he would win the nomination.
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Nebraska GOP Rebukes Ben Sasse[/h1]
Nebraskas most politically involved Republicans, many of whom have been itching to give Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) a piece of their mind, sent him a message on Saturday, the [link=https://omaha.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/nebraska-gop-rebukes-sen-ben-sasse-stops-short-of-censure/article_74bd1db0-75ed-11eb-beee-0fd210fd52f8.html#tracking-source=home-top-story]Omaha World Herald[/link] reports.
But the Nebraska Republican Party stopped short of formally censuring Sasse. Instead, core activists on the GOPs State Central Committee [link=https://twitter.com/asanderford/status/1365754352347004928]passed a resolution[/link] attacking Sasses work as a senator.
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I think hes going to run in 2024 because this is the most money that hes ever made. Just imagine making $300 million off of these rubes that hes conning after the election with his big lie So hell run again in 2024.
Anthony Scaramucci, on [link=https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-2024-run-fleece-rubes-anthony-scaramucci_n_603b1074c5b6ff75ac3cdf1f]MSNBC[/link], predicting Donald Trump will run for president in 2024.
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Trump wins CPAC straw poll with 55% of the vote. Trump: 55% DeSantis: 21% Noem: 4%
Poll without Trump:
Ron DeSantis: 43%
Kristi Noem: 11%
Don Jr: 8%
Mike Pompeo: 7%
Ted Cruz: 7%
Tucker Carlson: 3%
Josh Hawley: 3%
Nikki Haley: 3%
Ivanka: 3%
Rand Paul: 2%
… and Mike Pence: 1%-
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Trump wins CPAC straw poll with 55% of the vote. Trump: 55% DeSantis: 21% Noem: 4%
Poll without Trump:
Ron DeSantis: 43%
Kristi Noem: 11%
Don Jr: 8%
Mike Pompeo: 7%
Ted Cruz: 7%
Tucker Carlson: 3%
Josh Hawley: 3%
Nikki Haley: 3%
Ivanka: 3%
Rand Paul: 2%
… and Mike Pence: 1%
Pretty amazing. Seemed most jumped ship 2-3 months ago. Guess they are holding on to the belief that Trump would have the best chance of winning, in part due to their disdain of Biden/dems. If Trump did run and win the GOP nomination, who would be his VP?-
Mike Pompeo? Hes trying to make his way to the captain of the crazy ship. He put out a statement about how bad it was to release the Kashoghi stuff.
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If that list is the future of the republican party, they’re ficked.
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Thats it. Dumping the regular GOP for Trumpy Dumpty candidates. Marjorie Taylor Greens and the like.
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[link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/05/power-up-trumpism-with-polish-desantis-is-having-moment-least-now/]https://www.washingtonpos…ving-moment-least-now/[/link]
[b]’Trumpism with Polish’: Ron DeSantis
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[b] [/b]Florida[b] [/b]Gov. Ron DeSantis’s (R) rock star reception at the Conservative Political Action Conference last weekend was only a surprise to those who haven’t been watching him closely.
As national health officials have touted science-based approaches to mask-wearing and closing businesses, DeSantis has [link=https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/commentary/fl-op-com-fl-op-com-desantis-failed-strategy-covid-bousquet-20201204-lzw3vguckrb5za3cjeyeieokpy-story.html]zagged[/link] with his Trump-inspired handling of the coronavirus pandemic in Florida, earning plaudits from the base and boosting his profile as a possible 2024 contender. Florida has never had a mandatory mask mandate.
[b] [/b]We look around in other parts of our country, and in far too many places, we see schools closed, businesses shuttered and lives destroyed[b]. [/b]And while so many governors over the last year kept locking people down, Florida lifted people up.
DeSantis’s coronavirus calculus and adversarial relationship with the press has played out largely in his favor, elevating his profile and GOP popularity.[b] [/b]
[b] [/b]The governor’s approval ratings with Floridians[link=https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-desantis-mason-dixon-poll-20210302-kraatrl6bfbljcz2f4bvwxgg6u-story.html] have rebounded[/link] after[link=https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-ron-desantis-popularity-september-2020-20200915-qs5qfrpz5ffutfu67vysmlg2yi-story.html] plummeting last year[/link]. The 2024 buzz intensified last weekend after CPAC’s straw poll showed DeSantis winning 43 percent of participants’ support without Trump in the field.
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[h1]The If Trump Doesnt Run Primary[/h1]
[link=https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/22/2024-election-trump-477353]Politico[/link]:In a sign of Trumps iron grip on the party, most credible contenders are really only competing in the race if he chooses not to run. But the shadow he casts from Mar-A-Lago is already shaping the design of the contest.
For any other potential candidate going to early nominating states, said Stuart Spencer, the famed Republican strategist who advised Ford, you might as well do it, because you never know whats going to happen.
But if Trump does run, Spencer said, the path for most Republican presidential candidates is plain: You become a Trump-y. You endorse him.
Trump is Trump, he lamented. Its Trumps party.
