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  • 2020 Presidential Debates.

    Posted by btomba_77 on June 23, 2020 at 4:02 am

    After originally threatening not to participate in the debates,  the Trump team now wants 4 debates with Biden.
     
    Trump originally demanded the non-partisan debate commission to revamp its board and moderator choices to include more conservatives.
     
    Now he want more debates and earlier, starting in July/August instead of the normal September start.
     
    ___________
     
    Also, 
     
    [h1]University of Michigan Withdraws from Hosting Presidential Debate[/h1] The University of Michigan is withdrawing from hosting a presidential debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden, sources told the [link=https://www.freep.com/story/news/education/2020/06/22/u-m-withdraw-hosting-october-presidential-debate/3239836001/]Detroit Free Press[/link].

    U-M is making the move because of concerns of bringing the campaigns, media and supporters of both candidates to Ann Arbor and campus during a pandemic.
     

    satyanar replied 1 year, 8 months ago 20 Members · 346 Replies
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  • btomba_77

    Member
    June 23, 2020 at 7:52 am

    Miami mayor says presidential debate may not have audience

    The Miami area has been one of Floridas coronavirus hotspots for months.

    [link=https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/23/miami-mayor-presidential-debate-no-audience-335387]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0…udience-335387[/link]

    • Unknown Member

      Deleted User
      June 23, 2020 at 8:35 am

      How does Biden prep for the debates?

      I’d imagine Aricept iv bolus

      • Unknown Member

        Deleted User
        June 23, 2020 at 9:22 am

        The left now loves the walking dead. Let’s get Biden and RBG in a photo op. We can make it the face of our new AMC Zombie show.

        • savpruitt_28

          Member
          June 23, 2020 at 9:41 am

          [link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq6uoZS7UZU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq6uoZS7UZU[/link]
           
           
          Anecdotally I have family members who flatly admit Joe is no longer with it upstairs, and have no idea what his policy plans are, but doesn’t matter “I figure I am voting for the VP anyway.”

          • kaldridgewv2211

            Member
            June 23, 2020 at 11:46 am

            He has laid out some things like how he would handle Covid for example.  But yeah, his policy plan I can beat Trump.  That’s perfectly fine with me.  
             
            Trump is going to offer nothing of substance on the debate stage.  Like what happens if he has to explain his don’t test so many theory.  There would be less cases, right?  Guys an idiot.  No substance but loaded with BS.

            • Unknown Member

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              June 23, 2020 at 1:56 pm

              In all fairness, I think Trump was reacting to the media reports of cases rising recently. Part of that is indeed related to more testing.

              The media plays gotcha games with him all the time. never forgive him for gaffes.

              Man, if Trump talked like Biden…

              • 19462008

                Member
                June 25, 2020 at 8:58 am

                Lest’s be honest… When Joe’s got all cylinders firings, he’s spot on with the presenting side. The issue is… is it truthful. Just like the left making the same statement on Trump. The issue becomes, who’s firing all cylinders all the time. Joe sputters, back fires and blows smoke and timing is off. Word for Word, demeanor to demeanor, Joe ain’t got a chance unless he has a really good night and Trump has a very bad night. The question will be… Will all the interviewers be Left leaning in the Debate. Will Fox be allowed to present? If Fox can’t then CNN / NBC / NPR should not. How about a CSpan televised with only Newspaper interviewers? NYT WAPO / WSJ Washington Times. 
                 
                I’d love to see that. 

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  June 25, 2020 at 10:11 am

                   
                  It is one of the things tat made Trump threaten not to debate at all.
                   
                  The moderating organizations have not yet been agreed to.
                   
                  Trump team wants 4 debates. Biden team has agreed to three.
                   
                  What the CPD decides to do is as yet unclear. Parscale has floated having debates *outside* of Commission authority, but Biden would never go for it.
                   
                  So there’s still a lot of negotiating yet to be done. Biden has said he will accept the commission format, dates, and moderators.
                   
                   
                   
                   

                  • kaldridgewv2211

                    Member
                    June 25, 2020 at 10:18 am

                    I can see the marquee.  He-man Trump vs Sleepy Joe only on the OAN.

                    • Unknown Member

                      Deleted User
                      June 25, 2020 at 4:37 pm

                      The WaPo is advocating no debates. To the surprise of no one with a pulse.

  • heenadevk1119_462

    Member
    June 25, 2020 at 5:53 pm

    Quote from radgrinder

    The WaPo is advocating no debates. To the surprise of no one with a pulse.

     
    LOLOL, they are so pathetic … [b]and so predictable[/b].

    • Unknown Member

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      June 25, 2020 at 6:22 pm

      Dergon, I will make the usual $10 bet with you….wherever a debate is scheduled, in the two week period leading up to that debate there will be an increase in stories about a surge of COVID cases in the area.
       
      As a side bet, I will put an additional $10 that we can find contemporaneous data from the same city/county/state that shows that cases are dropping in the area.
       
      For instance, if the headline is “COVID cases surge in Ann Arbor prior to rally” then I can find information from the same day that cases in Michigan or the surrounding county are dropping.  Alternatively, if the headline is “COVID cases surge in Michigan prior to rally”, then I can find data from the same day showing that cases in Ann Arbor are declining.
       
      The point is, whatever city/county/state counts are going up, that will be cherry picked to say that cases are surging prior to the debate.
       
      (I know the debate in Ann Arbor seems cancelled, this is an example).

    • Unknown Member

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      June 25, 2020 at 6:24 pm

      Confirms that they know but don’t want admit it…

      that Biden has dementia.

      I read the article. Very meandering.

      • btomba_77

        Member
        July 10, 2020 at 8:09 am

        Tom Freidman arguing that Biden should set conditions on willingness to debate Trump –
         
        1) Trump must release tax return
        2) Trump must agree to non-partisan live fact checkers for the debate.
         
         
         

        • ester.mancuso_108

          Member
          July 10, 2020 at 8:32 am

          Quote from dergon

          Tom Freidman arguing that Biden should set conditions on willingness to debate Trump –

          1) Trump must release tax return
          2) Trump must agree to non-partisan live fact checkers for the debate.

           
          I would agree to that. 
           
          Then they can check to see if “Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids”
           
          Or to help Biden remember what state he is in. 
           
          Or who the last president was. 
           
          Or who is his wife and who is his daughter. 
           
          Or the actual text of the most famous line of the declaration of independence. 
           
          Or what office he’s running for. 
           
          Or Cory Booker and Kamala Harris can fact check him on stage again.
           
          [link=https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/02/biden-gaffe-machine-running-list-joe-bidens-best-slip-ups/]https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/02/biden-gaffe-machine-running-list-joe-bidens-best-slip-ups/[/link]
           
          [link=https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fun:List_of_Joe_Biden_gaffes]https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fun:List_of_Joe_Biden_gaffes[/link]

        • ester.mancuso_108

          Member
          July 10, 2020 at 8:36 am

          Quote from dergon

          Tom Freidman arguing that Biden should set conditions on willingness to debate Trump –

          1) Trump must release tax return
          2) Trump must agree to non-partisan live fact checkers for the debate.
           

           
          Joe Biden: “We choose truth over facts.”
           
          Crowd goes wild. 
           
          [link=https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/09/joe-biden-endorses-ocasio-cortezs-support-truth-facts/]https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/09/joe-biden-endorses-ocasio-cortezs-support-truth-facts/[/link]

          • katiemckee84_223

            Member
            July 10, 2020 at 11:18 am

            No matter how many kabbala advisors dergon posts, the results will be the same:
             
            [link=https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-has-91-percent-chance-of-winning-reelection-political-science-professor/]https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-has-91-percent-chance-of-winning-reelection-political-science-professor/[/link]

            • btomba_77

              Member
              July 27, 2020 at 2:29 pm

              [link=https://fox8.com/news/cleveland-clinic-and-case-western-to-host-first-presidential-debate/]https://fox8.com/news/cleveland-clinic-and-case-western-to-host-first-presidential-debate/

              [/link]
              [h1][b]Cleveland Clinic and Case Western to host first presidential debate[/b][/h1]  
               
              The first presidential debate, scheduled for Sept. 29, will now be held in Cleveland.
               
              The Commission on Presidential Debates said the University of Notre Dame withdrew from hosting the debate between [link=https://fox8.com/tag/donald-trump]President Donald Trump[/link] and presumptive Democratic nominee [link=https://fox8.com/tag/joe-biden/]Joe Biden[/link] because of complications caused by the ongoing [link=https://fox8.com/news/coronavirus/]coronavirus pandemic[/link].
              The event will be co-hosted by [link=https://fox8.com/tag/case-western-reserve-university]Case Western Reserve University[/link] and the [link=https://fox8.com/tag/cleveland-clinic]Cleveland Clinic[/link] at the Health Education Campus.

              ….

              The rest of the debate schedule:
              Vice presidential debate:
              [b]Wednesday, October 7, 2020[/b]
              The University of Utah, Salt Lake City, UT
              Second presidential debate:
              [b]Thursday, October 15, 2020[/b]
              Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts, Miami, FL
              Third presidential debate:
              [b]Thursday, October 22, 2020[/b]
              Belmont University, Nashville, TN
               

              • ruszja

                Member
                July 27, 2020 at 2:43 pm

                Quote from dergon

                 
                The event will be co-hosted by [link=https://fox8.com/tag/case-western-reserve-university]Case Western Reserve University[/link] and the [link=https://fox8.com/tag/cleveland-clinic]Cleveland Clinic[/link] at the Health Education Campus.

                 
                Are there any staff-tickets available ? Just test everyone 2 days before.

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  July 27, 2020 at 3:01 pm

                  xxxxx

  • btomba_77

    Member
    July 27, 2020 at 4:24 pm

    That could be fun… well see where we stand on Covid cases

    (And if the Canada border has re-opened by then Ill be hiding out up. Orth)

    • Unknown Member

      Deleted User
      July 27, 2020 at 4:57 pm

      No way quid pro Joe shows. He might drop dead beforehand, anyway. Not that being brain dead is that different.

      • btomba_77

        Member
        August 3, 2020 at 8:54 am

        [h1]Trump Campaign Wants More Debates with Biden[/h1]  
        Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien told [link=https://video.foxnews.com/v/6177654058001?playlist_id=930909787001#sp=show-clips]Fox News[/link] that he wants more debates between the president and Joe Biden and he wants them to begin sooner rather than later.
         
        Said Stepien: We want more debates. We want debates starting sooner. First debate is scheduled for Sept. 29, by that time 16 states already will have voted, by Sept. 29. Thats a concern to me. I want to see President Trump on the debate stage against Joe Biden.
         

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          August 3, 2020 at 9:15 am

          how many debates do you need within 100 days.  The only reason to put Trump up there is so he can make it a circus event.

        • kaldridgewv2211

          Member
          August 3, 2020 at 9:15 am

          how many debates do you need within 100 days.  The only reason to put Trump up there is so he can make it a circus event.

          • clickpenguin_460

            Member
            August 3, 2020 at 9:21 am

            Perhaps this is more appropriate in this thread.
             
            Lefties are already laying the groundwork for no debates.
             
            [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/opinion/trump-biden-presidential-debates-2020.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage]https://www.nytimes.com/2…on&pgtype=Homepage[/link]

            • satyanar

              Member
              August 3, 2020 at 9:44 am

              I can predict something. The performance will be cringe worthy.

              • savpruitt_28

                Member
                August 3, 2020 at 9:50 am

                The “Weekend at Biden’s” meme was supposed to be a joke, not the actual game-plan. LOL

                • 19462008

                  Member
                  August 3, 2020 at 10:14 am

                  Biden hasn’t been cornered; asked any tough questions; been readdressed the question once he goes off topic. The can meet more than 6ft apart, wave…Choose to not wear a mask and be in a clinical safe environment and have questions asked by CNN / MSNBC / FOX / OAN / WAPO / NYT / PBS / The Guardian. Whatever, as long as it’s broadcasted on all stations and the Questioners are even handed politically. i.e. 2 Lefties, 2 Righties on the board. 
                   
                  But I fear one party will not accept even steven fairness. 
                   
                  Suggested moderators: Mike Rowe, Ricky Gervais, Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington (lol)
                   
                  Would you agree? Fairness

                  • Unknown Member

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                    August 3, 2020 at 10:20 am

                    When asked a tough question trump just lies and doubles down on it

                    Look at the hydroxychloroquine stuff

                    Now he is supposedly signs healthcare plan that everyone will be very happy about

                    If I was Biden I would do one debate and say nothing else to see here

                    • btomba_77

                      Member
                      August 3, 2020 at 10:45 am

                      Meh. If Biden was Behind in the polls he’d be lobbying for more & earlier debates too.
                       
                      Front-runner has the leverage.   I still think Biden should push for live fact-checking.
                       
                      And as long as the polling is where it is he has no reason to accept any additional debates before the end of September.
                       
                       
                      ____
                       
                      As for Covid precautions…. it will be interesting to see how that plays.  I am doubtful there will be a live audience at least here in Cleveland.   It could be done safely maskless if the candidates and moderators are kept physically distant the whole time … but then I’m not sure that sends a great public health message, so I could see that becoming a sticking point.
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       
                       

                    • clickpenguin_460

                      Member
                      August 3, 2020 at 11:07 am

                      They are obligated to do 3 debates and should stick to that as per previous cycles. Anyone asking for more or less has an agenda.

                    • Unknown Member

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                      August 3, 2020 at 5:58 pm

                      The THREE AMIGOS exposed gain, unreal. Maybe Dicom is an honorary member. the D’artagnon of the musketeers.

                    • cpmolnar

                      Member
                      August 3, 2020 at 11:08 pm

                      Quote from Cubsfan10

                      They are obligated to do 3 debates and should stick to that as per previous cycles. Anyone asking for more or less has an agenda.

                      Just like tax returns…

  • 19462008

    Member
    August 3, 2020 at 10:37 am

    OF course you would. You like run-away Joe. He’s professional politician also… He Lies just as well, but mostly Dodges and rambles. Ok, so Trump exaggerated results at the time based on info from other physicians and their findings, Wow, he was mostly wrong about the use of the drug. Did he prescribe it himself? No… a Physician did. It appears, other parts of the world are using it. How come there are no white papers being able to been seen on the topic within Google / Yahoo or Bing regarding the usage of it? It’s just like the Dems to only have one solution to fit all so we all feel obligated to them for saving our lives. Which really, in turn… they kill so many due to poverty and selfishness.  
     
    I don’t want one and done. Times like these, you need to be present in front of the people, at least show your stuff in real time. Not edited, not media spliced. This is the time were Joe can now take Trump to the Wood Shed he so surely told everyone he would do. Put up or shut up. If you can’t handle 3 debates by he next election, you can’t handle the word. I will not support a hide behind media coward. Give me 3… or stop running. 

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 5, 2020 at 1:45 pm

    [b]Trump requests more and earlier debates [/b]

    The Trump campaign is asking the Commission on Presidential Debates to move up the last presidential debate to the first week in September to get ahead of an expected surge in early voting, Axios reports.

    The letter also asks the commission to add a fourth debate.

    • clickpenguin_460

      Member
      August 5, 2020 at 4:06 pm

      My newest prediction – 8/5/2020 at 6:05 pm central time.
       
      Biden will get covid (whether he actually has it or not) around Sept. 20th and will not be able to debate or campaign until the election due to his “recovery.” 

      • Unknown Member

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        August 5, 2020 at 4:41 pm

        Be careful what you wish for

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 6, 2020 at 6:24 am

    [link=https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1291337260177272832]https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1291337260177272832

    [/link][b]Giuliani says Debate Commission should be abolished if they don’t grant Trump earlier additional debates[/b]

    • clickpenguin_460

      Member
      August 6, 2020 at 7:14 am

      That’s dumb.  They just focus on the 3 they have.  It’s going to be hard enough to get Biden to go to all of those.  Asking for more just makes them look bad when they should be framing it the other way.

      • btomba_77

        Member
        August 6, 2020 at 9:05 am

        The list of people the Trump campaign suggested for the debate moderators

        Bret Baier, Gerry Baker, Maria Bartiromo, Shannon Bream, David Brody, Rachel Campos-Duffy, Kevin Cirilli, Larry Elder, Saagar Enjeti, Harris Faulkner, Major Garrett, Michael Goodwin, Ambrosio Hernandez, Joe Kernen, Hoda Kotb, Susan Li, Bill Hemmer, Hugh Hewitt, Tom Llamas, Dagen McDowell, David Muir, Norah ODonnell, Charles Payne, Rick Santelli.

        Of those names the only one I see as an appropriate pick would be Brett Baier.

        • clickpenguin_460

          Member
          August 6, 2020 at 9:13 am

          I agree he would be the best but there are a lot of news-type people in there. I mean hoda kotb isnt my first choice but shes not exactly a maga fan

    • btomba_77

      Member
      September 29, 2020 at 9:41 am

      [h1][link=https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-third-party-inspect-ears-electronic-devices]Fox News[/link] -Trump Wants to Inspect Bidens Ears[/h1]  
      President Trumps campaign wants Joe Bidens campaign to allow a third party to inspect the ears of each debater for electronic devices or transmitters. 
       

      • clickpenguin_460

        Member
        September 29, 2020 at 9:47 am

        Might as well check them for all PEDs (drugs and devices).  What’s the harm?

        • btomba_77

          Member
          September 29, 2020 at 12:00 pm

          So here are my three sample headlines from the Non-Fox/ Non-MSNBC media tomorrow and what they mean for the race –

          “Biden Stumbles in high stakes debate” — Trump win, potential to move the polls

          “Trump, Biden exchange jabs in fiery debate” – Draw. Might have been a spectacle but that doesn’t matter (and that amounts to Biden *win* since the dynamic is unchanged)

          “Biden lays out his vision as Trump attacks” – Biden win… potential to shift the race further in his favor.

          Pretty much anything other than Biden “gaffes” leaves it as a net win for the Biden/Harris campaign.

          • kaldridgewv2211

            Member
            September 29, 2020 at 12:47 pm

            I was listening to some different things today.  Most analyst seem to think option 3 is the best.  Biden lays out his plans and doesn’t get bogged down in the mud as TRump’s sure to fling. 

            • clickpenguin_460

              Member
              September 29, 2020 at 1:03 pm

              Those sound right.  
               
              The thing is that Biden is at his worst when he gets mad/flustered.
               
              Trump is probably the politician most likely to make others get mad/flustered.
               
              Should be interesting to watch tonight.

  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    August 6, 2020 at 9:26 am

    list should include Chris Wallace.

    • clickpenguin_460

      Member
      August 6, 2020 at 9:35 am

      It should but I’m sure trump is mad at him.

      Biden should also do an interview with wallace.

      Honestly trump is being overconfident about the debates. Biden is going to be terrible but trump might be too and the media will destroy him and ignore Biden

  • Unknown Member

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    August 6, 2020 at 10:35 am

    Biden needs to do these debates to prove to me he can speak coherent sentences without help. He honestly looks like he should be in an assisted living facility. These are the opinions of a previous Hillary voter. 

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      August 6, 2020 at 11:06 am

      Trump sounds coherent?
       
       

      • btomba_77

        Member
        August 6, 2020 at 12:14 pm

        [link=https://www.axios.com/debate-commission-trump-campaign-536bc1fa-5a9c-4dc6-8649-b86b25b8f36e.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100]https://www.axios.com/debate-commission-trump-campaign-536bc1fa-5a9c-4dc6-8649-b86b25b8f36e.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

        [/link][b]Debate Commission rejects Trump request for 4th debate[/b]

        [b]”[/b]In your letter, you express the Trump campaigns interest in a presidential debate in early September. You state that such a debate is necessary because some states begin sending out mail-in ballots before the first scheduled debate.”

        “There is a difference between ballots having been issued by a state and those ballots having been cast by voters, who are under no compulsion to return their ballots before the debates.”
        “In 2016, when the debate schedule was similar, only .0069% of the electorate had voted at the time of the first debate. While more people will likely vote by mail in 2020, the debate schedule has been and will be highly publicized. Any voter who wishes to watch one or more debates before voting will be well aware of that opportunity.”
         

        • clickpenguin_460

          Member
          August 6, 2020 at 12:17 pm

          3 is enough.  We shall see if Biden can do even 1.

          • katiemckee84_223

            Member
            August 6, 2020 at 4:45 pm

            Biden debates? Trump wins.
            Biden doesn’t debate? Trump wins.
            Biden lives? Trump wins.
            Biden passes? Trump wins.
            Biden bows out due to pressure from the DNC power brokers?
             
            You get the picture.
            #winning

            • btomba_77

              Member
              August 7, 2020 at 8:49 am

              Smerconish on Trump’s “approved” moderator list:  Absence of Chris Wallace is a ‘head fake’.  Trump team wants him because he will grill Biden, especially if Biden doesn’t come an sit for an interview first.

              • kaldridgewv2211

                Member
                August 7, 2020 at 9:11 am

                In a normal debate the moderator should be asking the same questions to both candidates right?  To me I think ideally it’s not going to be about gotchas but it should be about policy.  

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  August 8, 2020 at 8:35 am

                  [h1][b]Trump Sets a Very Low Bar for Biden[/b][/h1]  
                   
                  [link=https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2020/08/08/eyes-on-the-skies-for-bidens-pick-for-no-2-490020?nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=0000014e-f0ed-dd93-ad7f-f8edad790000&nlid=630318]Playbook[/link]: A debate has been raging in some corners of Trump world about how to position Biden. Clearly Trump and his campaign have tried to define him as completely out of it and in hiding. But under that construct, practically showing up for a debate will be a win for Biden.
                  ____

                  So now an effort by Team Trump to re-raise the bar:
                  [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/511156-trump-campaign-adviser-biden-is-actually-a-very-good-debater]
                  Trump campaign adviser: ‘Biden is actually a very good debater'[/link]
                   

                  • clickpenguin_460

                    Member
                    August 8, 2020 at 8:39 am

                    I do think Trump is being overconfident.  As previous people have said on here (maybe even you as well), all Biden has to do is not fall down/drool on himself and he will get the admiration of the media.  Look at how he can talk and move his hands at the same time!  And Trump set that up.  The bar is extremely low for Biden.  That’s why weeks ago I had asked if any of you would even hire Biden to work a cash register at McDonald’s.  
                     
                    It’s a broader question on how competent a President should be at everyday tasks, normal intellectual thought, etc.  

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 26, 2020 at 5:20 pm

    [h1][b]Biden’s Improved Performance has Trump Calling for Drug Tests Before First Debate[/b][/h1]  
    President Trump told the [link=https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-calls-for-drug-tests-before-biden-debate]Washington Examiner[/link] that he will call for drug tests for both Joe Biden and himself before the first candidates debate on Sept. 29.
     
    The president expressed suspicion at what he said was a sudden, marked improvement in Bidens debate performance during the Democratic primary season and suggested that he believes the improvement was the result of drugs. The president offered no evidence to support his speculation.
     
    Said Trump: My point is, if you go back and watch some of those numerous debates, he was so bad. He wasnt even coherent. And against Bernie, he was. And were calling for a drug test.
     

    • clickpenguin_460

      Member
      August 26, 2020 at 5:43 pm

      What kind of drug would he even be taking?
       
      Dementia waxes and wanes.  He has early dementia so it will only show up if he gets confused or frustrated – which may not happen in the debate.  It makes it harder for him to do a Chris Wallace-style interview though which is why he hasn’t done so.  

      • btomba_77

        Member
        August 27, 2020 at 9:39 am

        [b]Pelosi Wants No Presidential Debates[/b][/h1]  
        Speaker Nancy Pelosi told [link=https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1299007258689507329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1299007258689507329%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fus-news%2Flive%2F2020%2Faug%2F27%2Fhurricane-laura-louisiana-texas-donald-trump-republican-national-convention-rnc-live-updates]Politico[/link] that she doesnt think Joe Biden should agree to debate President Trump.
         
        Said Pelosi: I dont think there should be any debates I wouldnt legitimize a conversation with him, nor a debate in terms of the presidency of the United States.

         

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          August 27, 2020 at 11:15 am

          Somebody is getting wobbly

          • kayla.meyer_144

            Member
            August 27, 2020 at 11:51 am

            I frankly do not care whether there is a debate. Does anyone believe Trump would be up to talking about policy?

            No, it would be WWE. His base would love the trash talk sans serious anything. After all, his base never supported him for his grasp of anything.

            • Unknown Member

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              August 27, 2020 at 11:58 am

              Yeah

              Like the republicans convention I will not watch my mind is made up and is not changing

              • clickpenguin_460

                Member
                August 27, 2020 at 12:15 pm

                I don’t think you’re the target for the RNC or debates, Chiro.  
                 
                It would be ridiculous if they didn’t debate.  Biden needs to prove to moderate voters that he can handle debates.  Doesn’t matter what Trump says or does.

                • kayla.meyer_144

                  Member
                  August 27, 2020 at 12:22 pm

                  Trump does not have to prove sanity, competence or answer for lies and corruption? And we know how Trump handles debates, not a jot of anything of substance.

                  But Biden has to prove competence?

                  • clickpenguin_460

                    Member
                    August 27, 2020 at 12:31 pm

                    No, you and many have already judged that Trump is incompetent, lies, etc.  Trump is a known entity and his supporters and detractors aren’t likely to change their minds based on his debate performance.
                     
                    Voters need to have the chance to evaluate Biden.

                    • savpruitt_28

                      Member
                      August 27, 2020 at 1:09 pm

                      I still wonder if Biden is seriously running. I mean he accomplished his task, kept Bernie off the ticket, preventing him from torching the whole DNC ticket, now it’s coasting time. He can only hurt the DNC by crashing a burning in a debate and he’s got multiple potential acceptable excuses not to, so why bother?

                    • Unknown Member

                      Deleted User
                      August 27, 2020 at 1:17 pm

                      Lol Im sure hell be able to stand up to Putin or Xi if he doesnt have the acuity or stones to stand up to the Orange Man for a couple hours in a debate.

                    • Unknown Member

                      Deleted User
                      August 27, 2020 at 1:33 pm

                      Sybil back to back

                      All your others still banned?

                    • Unknown Member

                      Deleted User
                      August 27, 2020 at 1:15 pm

                      Anyone arguing that a presidential candidate shouldn’t debate his opponent is scum, and the real problem. We have all the evidence of tribalism and hatred we could ever need. They care nothing for the institutions or health of this land, just for power.
                       
                      The best part is that Frumi and the other amigos lose anyway.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    August 27, 2020 at 1:14 pm

    [b]Biden Confirms Hell Debate Trump  [/b]

    Joe Biden rejected Speaker Nancy Pelosis [link=https://politicalwire.com/2020/08/27/pelosi-wants-no-presidential-debates/]suggestion that he not legitimize a conversation[/link] with President Trump by debating him, [link=https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1299039079846350850?s=20]MSNBC[/link] reports.
     
    Said Biden: Im gonna debate him. Im gonna be a fact-checker on the floor while Im debating him.

     

    • Unknown Member

      Deleted User
      August 27, 2020 at 1:16 pm

      Quote from dergon

      Said Biden: Im gonna debate him. Im gonna be a fact-checker on the floor while Im debating him.

       
      Oh I so hope so.
       
      Some pee pee and poopie just ran down Frumi’s leg. And he started humping the other amigos.

    • kayla.meyer_144

      Member
      August 27, 2020 at 3:35 pm

      Quote from dergon

      [b]Biden Confirms Hell Debate Trump  [/b]

      Joe Biden rejected Speaker Nancy Pelosis [link=https://politicalwire.com/2020/08/27/pelosi-wants-no-presidential-debates/]suggestion that he not legitimize a conversation[/link] with President Trump by debating him, [link=https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1299039079846350850?s=20]MSNBC[/link] reports.

      Said Biden: Im gonna debate him. Im gonna be a fact-checker on the floor while Im debating him.

      Good for the Democratic voters and the RINOs who claim they will pull the lever for Biden over Trump but since when did Trump supporters care about facts when they have alternate facts.
       
      And the problem is I am not being snarky. When did Trump supporters give a damn about facts? Biden could very will be 101% accurate on everything & never make a single mistake, not trip over his tongue, not make stupid unforced errors and Trump will just act like he’s a part of a WWE performance saying nothing factual with fact checkers giving him 5 Pinocchio’s for every single statement, lying through his teeth & Democrats will cheer for Biden’s performance & Republicans will cheer for Trump’s WWE performance. 
       
      Facts have nothing to do with this election, at least as far as TRump’s supporters are concerned. They did not vote for him because of his dexterity with policy, foreign affairs, knowledge. After all, Trump started his campaign inventing a birther issue about that black guy. Was that factual?
       
      Who cares? “Facts” are a Democratic concern only. Has been that way for 40 years now.
       
       

      • Unknown Member

        Deleted User
        August 27, 2020 at 3:40 pm

        Ol Sleepy Joe better have a food taster. Nancy and Kamala are eyeing him like hyenas eyeing a sick limping wildebeest on the plains.

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          August 27, 2020 at 5:35 pm

          The best part, and how you should only respond to Frumi from now on should be like this:
           
          Trump wins again.
           
          It doesn’t matter how many lies they post, it’s going to be so choice when Quid Pro Joe gets blown out.

          • Unknown Member

            Deleted User
            August 27, 2020 at 5:52 pm

            Sybil

            • btomba_77

              Member
              September 2, 2020 at 9:46 am

              [link=https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2020/09/02/trump-biden-live-updates/?hpid=hp_no-name_election-luf%3Aprime-time%2Fpromo#link-2IOFVBH2ABCFXJLR5Q5FMOVC34]Moderators announced; none of Rudy’s “acceptable” list included[/link]

              The Commission on Presidential Debates on Wednesday [link=https://www.debates.org/2020/09/02/cpd-announces-2020-debate-moderators/]announced[/link] the four moderators for this years presidential and vice-presidential debates.

              Fox News Sunday anchor Chris Wallace will moderate the first debate, which is scheduled for Sept. 29 at Case Western Reserve University and Cleveland Clinic in Ohio.

              USA Today Washington bureau chief Susan Page will moderate the vice-presidential debate, which will take place at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City on Oct. 7.
               
              The second presidential debate, which will take the form of a town hall meeting, will be moderated by CSPAN senior executive producer and political editor Steve Scully. The debate is scheduled for Oct. 15 at the Adrienne Arsht Center for the Performing Arts in Miami.

              The third and final presidential debate will be moderated by NBC News White House correspondent and Weekend Today co-anchor Kristen Welker. It is scheduled for Oct. 22 at Belmont University in Nashville.

  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    September 2, 2020 at 12:11 pm

    Cool. Chris Wallace will be good.

    • Unknown Member

      Deleted User
      September 2, 2020 at 12:51 pm

      So do we think the Democratic rep at the presidential debates will be Biden, Harris or other?

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 2, 2020 at 5:44 pm

    [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/514864-biden-calls-for-live-fact-checking-at-debates-with-trump?fbclid=IwAR0qI2TTvZzHYdJzUEUOYM4FpvxG7_JKS8kM13hvnp3VLN0kujsQoXAZc3k]https://thehill.com/homen…3hvnp3VLN0kujsQoXAZc3k[/link]

    [b]Biden calls for live fact-checking at debates with Trump[/b]

    “Ive begun to prepare by going over what the president has said, and the multiple lies hes told,” Biden said during a news conference in Delaware when asked about how he’s preparing for the debates.

    “What Id love to have is a crawler at the bottom of the screen, a fact-checker as we speak,” he continued. “If we really wanted to do something, I think that would make a great, great debate if everything both of us said was instantly fact-checked.”

    • savpruitt_28

      Member
      September 2, 2020 at 5:47 pm

      I thought Biden, sharp as a tack, was going to be the fact checker?

      • Unknown Member

        Deleted User
        September 2, 2020 at 6:02 pm

        Ha!

        They are providing him the questions beforehand so that he can read them off a teleprompter.

        • btomba_77

          Member
          September 2, 2020 at 6:13 pm

          I think the Biden campaign would love a series of chirons constantly rolling Trump is making a false claim whenever he speaks

          But realistically theyre working the refs. They want to make sure the moderators are tough on lies/misinformation.

          • Unknown Member

            Deleted User
            September 2, 2020 at 6:30 pm

            Do you think the moderators will point out the lie when Biden brings up the Charlottesville hoax?

            If so, chyron away!

            • clickpenguin_460

              Member
              September 2, 2020 at 7:28 pm

              So trump goes into first debate with a moderator who hates him and possibly multiple news outlets spinning in real time what he says to fit liberal bias narratives all the while Biden just stands there with rehearsed answers?

              Seems fair.

              • Unknown Member

                Deleted User
                September 2, 2020 at 7:36 pm

                CF,

                Its a lay-up. Trump has had 4 years of practice at this.

                The only question is, if Biden takes a knee at the beginning, can he get back up?

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  September 21, 2020 at 11:56 am

                  Can you say “pivot”?
                  [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/media/517412-trump-campaign-plays-up-bidens-skills-ahead-of-cleveland-debate-hes-actually]Trump campaign plays up Biden’s skills ahead of Cleveland debate: ‘He’s actually quite good’

                  [/link]
                  (Sidebar: Just got out of my disaster preparedness meeting for the  Cleveland debate.  Since we’re the closest Level 1 trauma center they’re telling us to be ready in case of protest/terrorism violence etc.)

                  • Unknown Member

                    Deleted User
                    September 21, 2020 at 12:23 pm

                    Too late

                    Aint Minnie Q-Anons already wagering on Biden not showing up or having a seizures on stage

  • kaldridgewv2211

    Member
    September 21, 2020 at 12:54 pm

    Quote from dergon

    Can you say “pivot”?
    [link=https://thehill.com/homenews/media/517412-trump-campaign-plays-up-bidens-skills-ahead-of-cleveland-debate-hes-actually]Trump campaign plays up Biden’s skills ahead of Cleveland debate: ‘He’s actually quite good’

    [/link]
    (Sidebar: Just got out of my disaster preparedness meeting for the  Cleveland debate.  Since we’re the closest Level 1 trauma center they’re telling us to be ready in case of protest/terrorism violence etc.)

    got the text last week.  “this is just a drill”  but would you be willing to come in during the debate in case of disaster.

    • Unknown Member

      Deleted User
      September 21, 2020 at 4:06 pm

      The wagers are still on.

      Secretly though I think hes in excellent shape and will wipe the floor with Trump. He should show up and do just that.

      Do it. Do it do it do it.

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 23, 2020 at 4:55 pm

    Re the VP debates:

    Scott Walker is playing the role of Kamala Harris for Pence debate prep

    Pete Buttigieg playing the role of Pence.

    • clickpenguin_460

      Member
      September 23, 2020 at 5:16 pm

      Trump realized that making Biden seem like a sack of potatoes was a bad idea.

      • Unknown Member

        Deleted User
        September 23, 2020 at 6:06 pm

        Im eagerly awaiting Bidens response to why he let his son engage in human trafficking with sex slaves while he was Vice President.

        • clickpenguin_460

          Member
          September 23, 2020 at 6:23 pm

          Biden hasn’t had to stance a stance or been pressed on any issues since the primaries.
           
          Do people forget that Biden was toast in the primaries for a reason?

          • Unknown Member

            Deleted User
            September 23, 2020 at 6:31 pm

            They didnt forget. Neither he nor Harris ever take questions. Theyre never criticized. The media is trying to drag his demented corpse and his human trafficking criminal son to the finish line, no matter how many innocent people die or suffer.

            • jennycullmann

              Member
              September 23, 2020 at 7:09 pm

              It looks like Quid Pro Joe gonna show

              • btomba_77

                Member
                September 27, 2020 at 5:54 am

                [b]Has Trump set the bar too low for Biden?[/b]
                 
                 [link=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/27/us/politics/trump-biden-debate-expectations.html]New York Times[/link]  –
                 
                Yet {Trump} has simultaneously set the bar so low for so long that many of his supporters having watched unflattering, often manipulated clips of Mr. Biden in Trump campaign advertisements or on Fox News are now expecting the president to mop the floor with an incoherent opponent in something resembling a W.W.E. match.
                _____
                 
                 
                (ps — floating around my Facebook this morning from two different Trump high school friends are theories on why Biden still won’t debate.  Theory #1 – Dems will falsely claim that Biden tested positive for Covid between now and Tuesday. Theory #2 – Dems are going to remove Biden from the ticket tomorrow and replace him with Harris (and then, of course,  some other posters of course suggest it would actually be Hillary or Nancy Pelosi or AOC)
                 

                • btomba_77

                  Member
                  September 27, 2020 at 11:30 am

                  Trump continues to lower the bar: “I will be strongly demanding a Drug Test of Sleepy Joe Biden prior to, or after, the Debate on Tuesday night. Naturally, I will agree to take one also. His Debate performances have been record setting UNEVEN, to put it mildly. Only drugs could have caused this discrepancy???”

                  • btomba_77

                    Member
                    September 27, 2020 at 11:30 am

                    Well… since he “strongly demands” it… 

  • btomba_77

    Member
    September 27, 2020 at 4:20 pm

    Vice President Biden intends to deliver his debate answers in words. If the president thinks his best case is made in urine he can have at it. Wed expect nothing less from Donald Trump, who p*ssed away the chance to protect the lives of 200K Americans when he didn’t make a plan to stop COVID-19.

    ~ Kate Bedingfield, Bidens deputy campaign manager, on Trump’s “demand” for debate drug testing.

    • kaldridgewv2211

      Member
      September 27, 2020 at 5:48 pm

      I read that tweet a d I was thinking WTF. How desperate is this guy. Its like Joes sleepy or is he on the limitless drug? Which is it.

      Also it looks like he needs to worry about Don Jr. not sure if anyone has seen his posting but the kids eyes are half mast. He looks stoned to the bejesus

      • clickpenguin_460

        Member
        September 27, 2020 at 6:48 pm

        Just because I’m tired of it, can we stop blaming Trump for covid?  He made some mistakes but he’s one guy that had a ready-set apparatus he didn’t make that failed him.   Those deaths are mostly on the heads of the Dems in NY and NJ also.  If you want to say Oh yeah Trump should have done more and it shouldn’t have been up to the states then ask yourself if Trump would have tried to do ANYTHING in March, those same Govs would have disagreed and not done it.  So, just stop with the nonsense.  The covid deaths were going to happen no matter who was President because our country is full of a lot of unhealthy fat people.
         
        Oh, and if you think Biden would have been better then do some reading about the Swine Flu and how they horribly F’d that up.  They just got lucky it wasn’t as widespread and deadly as they thought it might be.

        • Unknown Member

          Deleted User
          September 27, 2020 at 6:51 pm

          How many people died from
          Swine flu?

          • clickpenguin_460

            Member
            September 27, 2020 at 6:51 pm

            “Oh, and if you think Biden would have been better then [b]do some reading[/b] about the Swine Flu and how they horribly F’d that up.  They just[b] got lucky[/b] it wasn’t as widespread and deadly as they thought it might be”

            • Unknown Member

              Deleted User
              September 27, 2020 at 6:55 pm

              12,490 USA citizens died of swine flu

              As of today 205,000 have died from Covid

              Im sorry but What the hello are you blubbering about
              Mare you seriously this stupid?

              • clickpenguin_460

                Member
                September 27, 2020 at 6:59 pm

                “Oh, and if you think Biden would have been better then [b]do some reading[/b] about the Swine Flu and how they horribly F’d that up.  They just[b] got lucky[/b] it wasn’t as widespread and deadly as they thought it might be”
                 

                • Unknown Member

                  Deleted User
                  September 27, 2020 at 7:03 pm

                  Yes Biden would have done better

                  12,490 us citizen died from
                  Swine flu

                  As of today 205,000 USA citizens died of Covid and its going up every day

                  Do you really want to argue this point?

                  It didnt have to be this way Just look at Canada

                  Better leadership better outcome

                  We know you love trump but he really Fd this up

                  • clickpenguin_460

                    Member
                    September 27, 2020 at 7:08 pm

                    “Oh, and if you think Biden would have been better then [b]do some reading[/b] about the Swine Flu and how they horribly F’d that up.  They just[b] got lucky[/b] it wasn’t as widespread and deadly as they thought it might be”
                     
                    Go read instead of making stuff up.

                    • Unknown Member

                      Deleted User
                      September 27, 2020 at 7:16 pm

                      12,940 USA citizens died of swine flu

                      205,000 USA citizens died of Covid in 6 months

                      They are still dying from Covid every day

                      Refute what I just said if you have other info

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